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General DiscussionDoes anyone get ms talents?

Does anyone get ms talents? in General Discussion
Blurrybob

    Really, most heroes have 20 ms talents but hey, u can get those 20 ms with 250 gold item already. I mean, c'mon, 10 str costs 1000, 250 ms costs 250, so why take ms?

    Won't care, Don't care. XD

      for more ms

      Blurrybob

        and no, i'm no jew

        Won't care, Don't care. XD

          i choose 20ms in kotol instead 6 str, so i can sell my boots for dagon

          PrizmIzOld

            I always favor ms talents over others. Taking ms on WK and Necrophos over stats/hp. However, hp is also great.

            Imho feels like its easier to snowball with ms rather than hp.

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            Seoulmate

              That wind lace is almost always going to be sold to make room for another item

              Cheap Laugh Guy

                It's the slot and stacking space you can have that gives value
                Plus if you're high combative power low chase, ms then.

                CUTNPASTE

                  Wind lace is insanely cost effective for its price, comparing it to other items isn't really fair as it isn't slot effective which is why people typically don't buy/carry one for ages.

                  Chadzpyre

                    depends on the hero. the only person its kinda a must on is ursa, and thats a lvl 20 talent. I wish his talents weren't so awful...

                    Pale Mannie

                      Keeper of the Lightspeed

                      The Legendary Phenom

                        Ms always

                        YB^^

                          I get it on OD still not sure I its worth, feels good.

                          RIP

                            hmmmmm i dont like getting hp items just for hp, so id always take stats/hp from talent tree unless the alternative is much better (like agility on an agi carry or sth or cd reduction)... is that very bad of me?

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                              Movespeed buff rules.

                              one syllable anglo-saxon

                                i pretty much only take ms talents only when the other one is even worse or when ms is rly important for this hero

                                Scorpio

                                  ^same here

                                  Aladdin

                                    People undervalue movespeed for some reason, but looking at the winrates it is usually the better option, even if slightly (see wk, morphling, necro). There are plenty of items that give stats, but there are only so much that give ms. Wind lace is cheep and good but:
                                    a) you can have it AND the talent
                                    b) it's not probably going to stay with you for all the game
                                    If choosing between ability to tank a few more hits with extra stats or to run away with more ms than enemy and take no damage at all (or to chase if you are winning) - I prefer the latter

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                                    Bosnian Blade

                                      almost every game ms over other talents

                                      Beks

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                                        Emiya

                                          in 7.00 with the bigger map more movement speed means more farming speed since you move faster between camps and better positioning in fights

                                          the realm's delight

                                            fuk no

                                            YB^^

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