General DiscussionMidas on CK

CK still rapes LC lategame
Midas is only bad on flashfarming heroes anyway, so it should be fine

"CK still rapes LC lategame"

This really depends on who jumps whom first, actually, there's not a single hero in the game who will survive getting jumped by a CK unless there are some save spells around (basically if you have dazzle, oracle or venge, etc). LC can work around this because it's a hero that controls duel conditions, but obviously in a team vs team clash, CK is likely to come on top if the enemy team can't clear his illusions. If they can, it's gg anyway.

That is the worst CK item build I've ever seen.

Lol ive rekt legions as ck cuz once u get 2 hearts she cant clear illusions.

The build is always tread armlet echo heart manta/second heart/ac/skadi and abyssal only against slipperys like weaver.

Isn't hex better than abyssal on CK?

Oh well I thought about it 2 sec is enough to kill slippery targets anyway
I just don't like that it gives no stat whatsoever

abyssal is situationally good on most (melee) carries, it's can even be good on sven, but you don't go into every game thinking "woah I'm gonna need an abyssal here" if your hero already has a hard disable, you buy it if you feel you need more of it

How does Armlet suck? It adds a really cool purple effect thing to your illusions, why would that suck?

@meka: I didn't even read that sacrilege, holy shit

Me too, I stopped reading OP's post at "Sange and Yasha"

Abyssal is rlly situational, but now at least the dmg block goes to illusions.

Plus ck can pull people close to him so the short range on abyssal isnt a big deal.

sange and yasha give ck two blades thou. TWO!

just don't do it and it's fine

The waves of salt is real lamaw But I try to explain a few things

Armlet just wears you out in a long term fight and the extra STR for illusion is already overkill with the damage output.
We haven't even solved mana problem yet. Might as well get that echo sabre. By that, you get be more active while Phantasm CD

SnY just goes good with CK's high ms, chase and run.

AND YASSSS, IT'S FUCKEN TWO BLADES IN WAN, HUDAFAK DAZEN WAN TAT

And too late, I've already done it couple of times.

armlets core sorry fam

midas ck probably sucks hes a snowball hero hes not beating anyone in a passive farm game

CK is scary when he is ahead of the enemy in NW, which is accomplished by pushing and exerting map pressure. midas is contrary to both of those things

you have 4.0k MMR, I clicked your profile and expected it to be half that, according to what I've read you say in this thread so far

your CK build is awful

bloodthorn is way too expensive to be core and the damage amp is super overkill

ur build is awful because

1 ur illusions are squishy as fuck

2 you never hit any noticeable power spike at all

3 i would run down mid if i saw you with a bloodthorn in quickbuy

^would you get bthorn in the ultra lategame, if you happen to lack damage or just want to consistently kill people during rift+stun?

But we're talking about hour+ long games where money is no longer an issue, you've already eaten your moon shard, have a refresher, a few buybacks, etc (it's ultra rare this is gonna happen, but let's talk theoretically).

absolutely

bthorn isnt bad in some situations. that situation is not where your illusions have 1600 hp or less at 30 minutes because you dont know how to use armlet

Armlet no longer just drains life for ck, that used to be anargument but its completely invalid cuz crit has lifesteal, so u can sustain armlet usage.

There is only 1 situation for bloodthorn and its late game to counter evasion

Yasssssssssssss, I take back what I said. Armlet is good for making your illu beefy. I am sorry if anybody's offended by the statement

Armlet sucks, I just feel skipping it

But I still think Midas is 70% item on CK now. He can enter late game.
Taking Armlet too soon as first core item, I couldn't function too long because lack of mana Would need an Arcane Boots support
Leveling talent lvl10 +7 INT feels painful Dx aarrgghhh
Maybe getting Drums instead of Midas gives you a stronger map presence but if not synced and something goes wrong early game CK doesn't have the farm ability to catch up. So I would say Drums/Midas is a little gamble

SnY really makes you mobile and you can avoid a lot of AoE skills
I can even chase into range for R.Rift

And yeah, I'm reviving a dead thread

I was thinking about midas and how could it be relevant in this meta. Since we have +3 slots - you can switch it (never sell it) and etc. But this item just sucks now. Too many interesting items such as MoM, HotD, drums, Echo Sabre ffs which you can get on fighting heroes.

The only reason I see you get midas now if you have 4 core heroes and there's just no farm for everyone but you prob gonna lose this game anyway.

Midas needs a buff; something like stats or be a part of something or else because getting midas for exp is not really worth it.

Can someone tell me why sange and yasha is bad

just a bad item in general

CK is literally the only hero in the game you must get armlet on.

All the other heroes its situational or a core pick up if you are good using armlet but not necessary.

CK you must get armlet on no matter what. That said, players will often get drums or echo on him first if they aren't leveling up his ulti at level 6.

yasha is good, because it build into manta, sange build into halberd and its pretty situational.

and sange&yasha is just a worst skadi.

You can also turn on armlet and leave it in your backpack when six slotted to give illusions the bonuses

You can also turn on armlet and leave it in your backpack when six slotted to give illusions the bonuses

they fixed this.

Lol midas for exp is great this patch with skill trees giving power spikes and some times giving cool down reduction which = more midas gold/exp

no one cares if someone uses midas on any heroes.

I care

People care
Nobody cares about you tho diox

xD I'm fine with that

Oh wait, not me xD
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