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General DiscussionAlch builds besides radiance, manta, oct

Alch builds besides radiance, manta, oct in General Discussion
Dire Wolf

    Are there any good alch builds that don't go radiance, manta, oct? Actually I think you throw an armlet in there after radiance now but you get the idea.

    I'm just wondering if alch can be a fighter with something like phase boots, maelstrom, vanguard, s&y, basher, bkb at say 25 mins. Seems pretty scary. But no one ever tries anything non radiance and cus of the synergy with manta and octarine core they always get those too.

    If you were building a fighting alch would you go phase or treads? I think phase cus his bat in chemical rage is already super low so phase is a lot of dps, plus he's melee and needs to chase people.

    f9

      The old alche build
      (SY,CUIRAS,ABYSAL,SILVER EDGE,MJOLNIR,MS,PT)

      Corona FRIES

        Early maelstorm for radiance substitute then you can basically buy other fighting items.

        Or you can also play it as roamer (singsing style), medallions / dagger and get early stun n play aggresively

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        M U R D E R

          Mjolnir Daedalus Daedalus MKB Abyssal Boots of choice Moonshard

          Its the max DPS build with Daedalus+Mjolnir substituted for Boots+Abyssal to be usable in real game XD

          But need other AC carrier in team

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          Johnny Rico

            you build the radiance because its a big item, gives you a lot of dmg, and makes you farm faster.
            the thing is after the radiance, build vanguard + basher, assault, mjolnir, hearth, anithing you want really, scepter as well

            Celine

              Solar crest dagger kind of roamer build
              Shadow blade armlet and other dps shits
              Basically any build is ok as long as you stay away from battle fury

              Dotallstars'

                Ármlet+phase bot+ blink daggeer +moon+ basher gg minute 26

                nyancicadas~

                  phase armlet silver edge mjollnir AC abyssal

                  playinginursockdrawer mm soc

                    I've actually been wondering if there's any other armor item meta alch can buy that gives him armor.

                    CoL.Limmp

                      Radi Armlet Ac Skadi Abysal Manta is best build for alch

                      Javad

                        Power tread to armlet then solar crest sny/dagger or both and then u can go anywhere with the build items like: mjollnir abyssal silver edge halberd butterfly mkb daedalus bkb linkens eye divine
                        Abed built max evasion one game (solar blink sny halberd butterfly)

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                        stupid fuck 2000

                          7 moonshards

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                            first boots then armlet mjollnir shadow blade travel boots silver edge cuirras mkb bkb

                            Rocket

                              Why don't even pro-Alchs only pool Aghs when they are 7-slotted? In my normal skill head he should be doing your team's farming and pooling aghs for the rest of the team after 3 or 4 items (rad,manta,oct, bots for example)

                              There are some aghs out there that are really powerful but the hero has no farming ability.

                              MMR KILLER

                                You cant farm all of those items that you just said in 25 mins because you dont have any farming items and you will die way often
                                and the reason why people go radic manta and octarine is to make him unkillable push really fast and farm really fast, Why would you want to ruin hes farming skill.

                                matrice

                                  there's a very good build of alchemist:

                                  armlet radiance manta shiva abyssal (anyway, for fuck sake, stop building octaSHIT on him).

                                  You also have some shit going on with sb mjolnir abyssal cuirasse bkb.

                                  In special case, you can consider going solar dagger armlet (mecka?) halberd; but you need a pushy strat, and the other carry HAS TO go early game build, with drum/halberd/armlet and shit like that

                                  Dem1se.終焉

                                    Moonshard(eaten), Aghs(eaten), AC, BoT, Mjolr, blink,Abys and heart or bkb

                                    Rain

                                      4 butter 1 abyssal 1 BoT eaten moonshard

                                      Cheap Laugh Guy

                                        Don't raise Greevil's Greed. Max Unstable Concotion first then Acid Spray. Buy Phase Boots Armlet SnY GGWP

                                        Dog

                                          I used to play alch a whole lot and only built radiance a couple of times. Going fighter build has been a bit hard recently.

                                          http://www.dotabuff.com/players/191135480/matches?hero=alchemist

                                          http://www.dotabuff.com/players/140684649/matches?hero=alchemist

                                          Used to run max stun build with my cousin playing with a reliable disable and/or minus armor(venge was his favorite) on a dual lane all the time and scored really easy kills.

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                                          Dire Wolf

                                            You still farm super fast without radiance. Chemical rage cd isn't long compared to uptime and you do a lot of dmg just with boots and armlet. Plus most non radiance builds have mjollnir. Plus you can farm stacks with acid spray.

                                            Rocket

                                              I just think there's a solid strategy of pooling aghs on a team of bad creep farmers.

                                              cheesy example: pool one to a core warlock who rushes refresher and you can have 4 golems 15mins in.

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