General Discussionso i tried playing carry

should i have tried to get vlads before bfury? i had valds at courier but it died and my bfury timing was shit anyway. i feel like if i had done that i wouldve had some sustain and might even be able to take on ancients

You should buy bfury first and boots of speed then farm for your manta after building bfury then after manta you can buy your boots of travel for split push and farm farm farm that's all you need cuz AM can get 300-500 last hit creeps every game

In most NS games you will be playing Carry as if you're playing an offlaner. Forget about free farm and don't even pick anti-mage unless you know you will have a support helping you in the lane, because he sucks at comeback through jungle. And IF you do for some reason pick anti-mage for a hard lane, don't even get battle fury (I like linkens+VG/Basher+Manta, it makes makes you nearly invincible and still capable of at least some sort of fighting, unlike naked BF rush)and buy some wards, especially against mirana, because supps at this level are almost always trash and don't realise that vision is essential (anti-mage can ward quite well aggressively because 5 seconds blink)...

Ofc you can try stall the game to min 50 or so and farm your pos 1 items starting at the hardlane, but you know yourself that you are supposed to get the items by min 30, and not by min 50-60. Might as well go for different items completely, that would allow you to come online faster (or in this case, come online at all).

Btw you're a high skilled player why having a hard time playing AM?

Oh boy dat am xD I'll take a look at this game if I will be bored when I will get back home

ROFLLLLLLL

Bro, offlane is the lane where a hero NATURALLY GETS LITTLE TO NO FARM, it is dangerous and difficult to do well in that lane.

You picked a hero who needs tons of SPACE and ATTENTION from your teammates to GUARANTEE your FARM and EXP.

Do you understand??

Only heroes who don't need many levels / items to be effective go into offlane because they won't get much exp / farm but they can still be useful because of their spells from the little EXP / Farm they managed to get .

You put yourself in a bad position by picking anti mage and going to a difficult lane with no support to help you farm.

Anti mage cannot fight for shit without items unless he shows up at the end of the fight and ults people on low mana, so no , fighting was not the answer.

If anything you shouldve sat behind trees to SOak EXP, then get urself a couple items that allow you to jungle, so you can avoid feeding and get ur momentum going. Only go to lane when they are pushing , so u can pull the lane creeps away from ur tower.

never pick a carry and go offlane tho that is just retardation to the max level

1k Forever, I would recommend not passing on advice that would see him pulled down to your level of playing.

1. Picking AM was probably your downfall with so many cores that required farm it was bound to fail.
2. Building Vanguard in a rough lane is a good way of surviving it. Go farm a small camp and come back into lane.
3. Build treads, buy ring of heath. If lane is great then turn it into a BF, if lane is aids, turn it into a vanguard. Either way its win win for you.

Your team was bad so you don't shoulder all the blame but some of it does rest on the reasoning for picking that many cores.

You can't pick AM there, AM needs safe lane and supports. Never pick AM on a team with that many carries.

i knew it was a bad pick, couldve won easily if i were the space creator myself however i did get curious as to how my game would turn out if i didnt do what ive been doing...

well i guess i know now and wont be doing it any time soon LOL

and @cl1b i didnt choose the offlane life, the offlane life chose me

i thought kotl was going to lane with me since i kinda predicted a medusa top or ancient (didnt predict the kunkka top tho) but then he left me all alone in my safelane and he ended up laning with troll

i know AM was such a horrible pick that even I'm starting to scratch my head over this one, but still I just wanted to try playing a pure ricing hero for once heh

@1k forever

holy shit that advice was so bad i couldnt even

i already had troublr sustaining myself from all that shit and you suggested me to get a fury first and outright skip treads, no vlads and straight manta rush after fury

i cant even... ugh

Actually scratch that, if you went offlane then you needed to have gone vanguard, manta, and like maelstrom or smth like that. BF build doesn't work offlane.

Alice, u have over 2,000 games and u can barely win in 2.9k MMR

just listen to others LMAO

MAelstorm = unique attk modifer

UAM don't stack with AM mana burn.

rofl are u serious

Tbh the entire dire team was out-drafted. Probably would have built vanguard early instead of rushing into the battlefury. It might have helped you in-lane if you hung around to soak up some of that extra damage that drow aura was putting out...

@CL1B, actually Maelstrom stacks with everything. What was said that it will override the other UAM when it procs.
So for example you have satanic or HoD, when the Chain Lightning procs, you will not lifesteal. Do you get it?
Or for the case of mana break, whenever chain lightning procs, mana break will not take effect. Just like that.
And when chain lightning does not proc, mana break will take effect again.

OK, I checked that game, u should have been more aggressive in lane early with that hero, I would have fucking raped that lane alone if I played that game, don't be afraid to hit people, bring urself more regen and just fucking zone them, bully these kids, show them who's the boss here, u could have killed dusa for sure. pms was useless, should have bought quick ring of health and qb and u could get some jungle creeps. I don't like that u bought boots either, like whats the point? will u be able to farm with it? that gold could have spent on ring of health and it would have been more useful. Also that 1st arrow where u died when u farmed that I was like ye this is where ur going to die :d It was kinda obvious u shouldn't farm in places like this, it's obvious that there are enemies nearby. Like mid was missing for a long time and enemy safe lane is pushed and there's only drow there while others are pushing ur tier 2 top xd I don't like your item choices. Like what the fuck is that build???

you're dying to mirana and it's magical dmg xD why can't u get at least 1 value point into ur 3rd spell. Ur also not fighting or anything, so why are u maxing ur 1st spell? Your map sense is weak, like you don't know in which places u should farm, ur deaths were so 4Head EleGiggle EksDee There were kills u missed, there were A LOT of creeps u missed and so many mistakes. Just play more and learn from ur mistakes, with time u will become better hopefully.

LMFAO WHAT WAS I BUILDING

WHY DIDNT I TAKE MANA SHIELD

IM SO DUMB ROFL

I always go 1-1-1-1 with 3 points in stats then max blink

W-Q-E-stats-stats-R-stats-W-W-W

I'm still kinda confused when to prioritize blink and when to prioritize mana break
Both of them seems quite good to max first

JESUS IM SO BAD LOL I PLAYED ANOTHER CARRY GAME AS AM (AGAIN LOL)

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2591594873

this time the problem was i didnt know how to take fights

i had like one good fight after i got my manta but then it all went downhill when i tried to solo LC with it i thought i could kill him lel guess not

i just started to fall off after that

900 TOWERDAMAGE AM WHAT

thinking back i couldve just rat doto'd the shit out of 'em, guess i was too scared of LC PA and WR

Shit like this proves that "carry is the easiest role ever" is complete bullshit

^ How is right clicking creeps and heroes hard?

If you want a hard role play fuckin offlane that shit is for tough people.

Again, thats just what it looks like on the surface. You need farming efficiency, map awareness, understanding of when to fight/farm, understanding on when to save for/use buyback, etc. to play good carry.

I just saw your rank so I guess... lul

You need farming efficiency, map awareness, understanding of when to fight/farm, understanding on when to save for/use buyback, etc. to play good carry.

you forgot creep agro, tanking creeps, stacking at 53, maintaining equilibrium, trading hits for regen items, cutting waves and probably alot more. /Making their offlane resort to jungle is the fucken best.

You need farming efficiency, map awareness, understanding of when to fight/farm, understanding on when to save for/use buyback, etc. to play good carry.

What? That's basic knowledge for not being complete dogshit in any given role, far from being carry exclusive stuff.

you shouldnt of tried to solo am offlane you should have gone safe or asked for constant assitance, and kunkka dusa and mirana all do alot of magic damage early, so you shouldnt have lvled your mana break but instead lvl up magic shield/3rd bility, and blinka nd get mana break later

The winning percentage is higher if u pick offlane hero. Instead of winning the game by carrying the game, u can try winning the game by wrecking their carry early game so they cant farm peacefully while your carry can have better farm.

You can't play AM in 2k because:

Nobody knows what the fuck they're doing, you need help the most the first 4-5 minutes of the game, in 2k you get dual offlanes.

You can't last hit.

Try with Slark, Jug. Lot easier to carry.

@Kiro

yeah that seems to be the case, i just won a game with timbersaw earlier by shutting down their naga (who went vangaurd diffusal LMAO) and forcing everyone to rotate to kill me, i was literally getting 5 manned by 15-20 mins while my carry was "farming" FeelsGood