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General DiscussionHow void isn't nerfed yet ?

How void isn't nerfed yet ? in General Discussion
MadBeast

    Watching ti and this hero is as disgusting as in pubs:

    Engage/escape that can heal you for 99% of ur life.
    74 base damage
    slow that also pause your cooldown,
    bash that make him kill anyone with manta, magical dmg but bash over bkb
    huge bat
    Strongest desable of the game with chrono.
    Fast spells animation
    Meanwhile you have heroes like dusa, viper, sniper who can't even start to turn in the same time he land three spells.

    how you think he will be nerfed ?

    Meanwhile you have heroes like dusa, viper

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    KraToss

      I think he's a good hero but not nearly as good as you're making him seem. Damage over time, silences, heroes who can disable him during Chrono. All of these things counter him pretty hard.

      Murranji

        So Void was pretty big around TI4. Got dumpstered again and again (mainly via nerfs to chronosphere - remember when he was a counterpick to PA because it would disable her evasion?). Was pretty absent from TI5 as a result.

        2 years pass so he has to buff the hero up again so he appears.

        Meanwhile Razor? Got dumpstered also and his only buffs are so laughably small as to be almost unnoticeable. His link is a little harder to break and his ulti does slightly more damage (even then his ulti still does less overall damage compared to what it used to do at TI4 since the increased damage per strike does not offset the loss of number of strikes nor the ten extra minus armour points which it did).

        Bad Intentions

          U cant give void to a void playa man :O

          BUSE

            Hes a very strong pick and synergizes very well with other heroes. He's extremely hard to zone in lane. He scales into late game amazingly and is flexible with item builds. He can stop cooldowns of enemy spells. He is deserving of a nerf, but how I do not know. I would nerf his base armor and damage to make his laning phase a bit weaker, but besides that he should be fine.

            psy·che·del·ic

              All they have to do is nerf time walk and the hero will be dog shit ,

              Either that or they rework his ult which is unlikely.

              SirSwirll

                Guys I think the answer to the question really is! There hasn't been a patch out yet ;)

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                Xignum

                  He isnt OP

                  langy gong

                    Hes not OP really. His idea is that he can make comebacks depending on how well the enemy team is playing.

                    In this TI's case, Universe was playing better than Ehome. That's it.

                    BlurryBob

                      go play LoL you incompetent troll. The fact that u got fucked up by him in one of your miserable -2500mmr can't make Lord Icefrog change his game components.

                      BlurryBob

                        go play LoL you incompetent troll. The fact that u got fucked up by him in one of your miserable -2500mmr can't make Lord Icefrog change his game components.

                        Admiral

                          OP in hands of universe

                          Livin' Real Good

                            He isn't OP, he's just strong, fuck, let him live man, just let him not have to be nerfed everytime he gets some glory. Let me guess, you watched the EG match today right? lol

                            The hero was nerfed in 6.82, then wasn't played for like 4 patches.

                            He's like Juggernaut, his move set naturally allows him to be apart of almost any line up, there's not much they can do about that unless they rework him AGAIN.

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                            CNP

                              His skills are very strong for a hero with absurdly good base damage and armour. I think if he got a base damage nerf so this hero would be fine, you might have to actually think a little before picking void instead of just trading hits with the enemy support and going talon jungle if the lane is too hard.

                              MadBeast

                                Issue is why pick tide when you can pick void.

                                Oldman

                                  Void is fine. He doesnt deal much dmg himself as an utiliity hero so it makes him situational.

                                  He is dogshiet if u have no synergy in team for chrono. Nuff said.

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                                  Tung Tung Tung Sahur

                                    He is nerfed for Scepter.

                                    If the hero you want to nerf is Void, why not nerf Pudge and PA better?

                                    Oldman

                                      ^ I love normal skill talking about nerfing any hero. Apparently this meta is the most balanced in history of dota. But people will always complain cos they have no idea how to counter specific hero.

                                      PA - burst dmg, magnic nukes
                                      Pudge - Vision, strafing left and right

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                                      Lucius Artorius Castus

                                        Don't you dar to touch my void

                                        Part Of Me

                                          As already said by a guy in this thread, Faceless Void can be countered like any other hero. He is being played a lot on this TI because he is capable of surviving in the offlane, even agaisnt a very aggressive Tri Lane and scales nicely into the mid and late game. But, he can be countered. Like the previous faceless void, normally played as Hard Safe Lane Carry, he is shit agaisnt silences, chain stunning and slows. You can even counter him inside the Chronosphere. Of course that as meta hero, if dont counter him, you will have a bad time playing agaisnt him. He is not OP neither broken in this patch. I think that the previous faceless void was broken, because of the amount of RNG that was based on the hero (remember when you you used lion´s ulti and the backtrack actived, gosh so frustating).

                                          bearcat0611

                                            I'm pretty sure the only hero even close to being OP this patch is mirana and even she isn't really Op. Void is just strong.

                                            ywn

                                              OP

                                              Jay the Bird

                                                "Meanwhile you have heroes like dusa, viper"
                                                Excuse me but did you just call dusa and viper weak heroes?

                                                MadBeast

                                                  haha viper zero picks in TI 0.1% pick in pubs too strong;

                                                  stupid fuck 2000

                                                    who the fuck wants to play viper

                                                    BenaoLifedancer

                                                      Cause we're in the middle of TI you fucking scrub

                                                      Final Boss

                                                        Void is absolutely OP, i dont know how people can compare juggernaut to him, a hero whose ult gets countered by just about every little thing(manta, ghost scepter, am qop blink, euls, pounce into darkness, shadow dance, time walk, pounce, warcry and much more). I like how these people want void to live for a little longer yet when tb was being picked too much by pros everyone was like nerf this hero so OP omg even though tb is the most nerfed hero of dota of all time. A six slotted juggernaut can do nothing vs a non six slotted void even. What did universe have? a vlads, diffusal and a manta and he was able to kill the six slotted juggernaut and his team with good chronospheres. Shadow blade and mirana= nearly permanent invisibility and ez setups for chrono. The poor jugg never had a chance imho.

                                                        Final Boss

                                                          Void is countered by a lot of heroes and items. Yeah, so was tb yet they still nerfed him anyway, i hope void gets dumpstered again stupid bullshit hero that kids pick to feel good about themselves.

                                                          p2d

                                                            I see people talking about heroes getting nothing, lol just stop PA has never had a patch of significant relevance

                                                            MadBeast

                                                              I like how people say void "can be countered" by chain stuns, like any hero can be countered by chain stuns...
                                                              Except void is almost the most picked hero this TI and has op winrate.
                                                              The one saying he hero is balanced are the one abusing him for ez mmr.

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                                                              ness

                                                                'oh no a hero is somewhat, he relevant must be op'

                                                                fucker isnt even that good a hero without communication

                                                                Final Boss

                                                                  and what about with communication?

                                                                  Final Boss

                                                                    lion ult backtracked, yes we remember that, only this void has a 6 second cooldown time walk that also backtracks lion ult along with an aoe slow that also stops your cooldowns and his bash damage has been changed to do the same damage both inside and outside chrono. This coupled with his high base damage and good base armor make him very strong in the hands of a good player.

                                                                    Xignum

                                                                      ^so other heroes dont do good in good players hands?

                                                                      Final Boss

                                                                        doing good is one thing, destroying the enemy as a right clicker without any items simply cause you pressed r is something completely different. Eg are only winning all their games cause of universe's void not cause sumail is some amazing player.

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                                                                        MadBeast

                                                                          up for the noobs on the topic saying the hero is balance.
                                                                          Free weaver ult every 6 seconds, what you say now that he fuck anyone in ti finale ?

                                                                          jeol

                                                                            Nope void is not the most picked . Mirana or batrider is the most picked ( not sure which one)