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General DiscussionFaceless Void UAM

Faceless Void UAM in General Discussion
M u r d e r

    What Unique Attack Modifiers do you like to use on Faceless Void? I myself rarely use any but I am thinking to start.

    Do you think Desolator is worth it, or better just carry a Blight Stone, assuming you have free slots and a Vlads?

    Hatsune Miku

      mom

      [A]rchimedes

        i usually go madness but its a long time ago

        M u r d e r

          I used to like madness, but now I prefer Echo Sabre because it is way more useful outside of the Chronosphere than the MoM as MoM increases damage taken. I don't like getting bursted fast :/

          I suppose Skadi isn't an option haha.

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          Celine

            echo sabre is a go-to item most of the time
            MoM is an ok choice as a situational pickup against a lineup of not many kiting heroes/stun/silence
            desolator is retarded (you shouldn't pick void in the first place with minus armor strat)
            skadi is great and works well with manta

            doc joferlyn simp

              Treads --> Yasha --> Diffusal Blade --> Manta --> Eye of Skadi

              TripleSteal-

                echo sabre is not a usm neither a good item. the answer is probably none, be it carryoid or offlane void.

                jo~

                  diffusal, maybe oov

                  TripleSteal-

                    diffusal is not a uam either

                    Raining in Manila

                      sange yasha

                      robert

                        Example of uam are any lifesteal, deso , skadi(i think) and am etc. For offlane void Vlad's for offlane void is kinda ppl usually build . For carry I have no idea maybe HoD or MoM but it's kinda bad

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                        M u r d e r

                          Vlads gives lifesteal but it's not an UAM - it's an aura. Echo Sabre is not an UAM but it invalidates the MoM attack speed buff, kinda.

                          That's why I mentioned it.

                          I guess Chain Lighting is an option, maybe even Desolator if noone in your team has it and are attacking the targets you hit from outside the chrono. Blight Stone is quite effective for it's cost until you get 6 slotted as well.

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                          Totentanz to The King: M ...

                            Everyone gets Vlads but nobody actually gets an UAM on the hero.

                            M u r d e r

                              Treads --> Yasha --> Diffusal Blade --> Manta --> Eye of Skadi

                              I myself think that Echo Sabre is highly effective in the early game because it lets you land 2 immediate hits on opponent, before and after the chrono. Also it basically means that you will have nearly 50% chance to Time Lock your opponent when you first engage him.
                              Phase over Treads for me coz I feel like when you build treads, your attacks simply lack the punch early on while you still don't have high chance to time lock.
                              So I personally tend to do...
                              Phase -> Echo *until min 10 if free farm, starts fighting more actively* -> Vlads -> Blink -> Diffusal Blade -> Situational Extension Item -> Moon Shard

                              Everyone gets Vlads but nobody actually gets an UAM on the hero.

                              Yeah that's why I will always buy Blight Stone early game until I'm 6 slotted. Not having an UAM quite the waste most of the time.

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                              TripleSteal-

                                well, actually early mjollnir is kinda ok, i think

                                Menace

                                  diffusal works with skadi since when?

                                  TripleSteal-

                                    ^several months ago

                                    jo~

                                      oh yea lul

                                      robert

                                        Echo sabre sounds pretty good. 2 attacks and also increase your chance to bash since u dish out more attacks

                                        .dusk

                                          no need UAM?

                                          M u r d e r

                                            but UAM's are highly effective most of the time. Like, Desolator sounds like nothing, a worthless item for most heros, right? But -7 armor is actually huge.

                                            Let's say that you have 300 'damage' and crit with Daedalus, enemy has 20 Armor... You hit ~400.
                                            If someone hit that target with a Desolator before, your crit hits ~500 instead.

                                            And lower targets actual armor is, the more effective the Desolator will be.

                                            Meaning, Desolator is probably the most cost-efficient damage item in the game, as long as multiple desolators don't hit a single target.

                                            In other words, UAM are underrated.
                                            If team has no Desolator, I'll go for it on Void any day.

                                            I might be normal skill trash, but I can theorycraft quite well. That's one of main reasons why I even play doto.

                                            ...

                                            So yeah, most of the time you are better off with an UAM than without it. Common exceptions I can think of would be that you need to stack utility items like Blink, Gem, Diffusal, and shit... and simply don't have the inventory space for teh UAM.

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                                            nekocan

                                              Mjollnir bruh, bezty

                                              Ame

                                                Lifesteal

                                                psy·che·del·ic

                                                  All of u giving suggestions are clueless as fuck lmao.

                                                  Ur only saying echo sabre cuz u mightve seen some high mmr build it 1-2 times.

                                                  nekocan

                                                    ^echo sabre is good for every melee rightclicker
                                                    We dont fucking care about the meta or pro using it.The item is just good,2hit minislow every 5s and+hp+regen

                                                    Morningstar

                                                      When players usually pick Void, Attack-Modifiers is the least thing you should worry about when playing him. If you had a hard time thinking whether deso/skadi/mjolnir should be bought then you fails playing Void.

                                                      Dog

                                                        I might be normal skill trash, but I can theorycraft quite well.

                                                        I think I vomitted a little inside

                                                        M u r d e r

                                                          Well, I obviously exaggerated, I'm not trash. Even though most games are in normal skill, my average KDA on Faceless Void was 12+ at the time of posting.

                                                          If my theorycrafting of item builds was wrong, I wouldn't be successful in my Faceless Void games.

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                                                          Litmus

                                                            ^with 3 games? Yeah dude, totally sold on your argument

                                                            M u r d e r

                                                              Okay, I needed to lose at least once to make it more realistic. You can't always win, after all. Now it's 8+, seems far more reasonable.

                                                              You do get that this is normal skill, and so in any team that doesn't massively feed the opponent, any decent FV player should have less than 2 deaths per match.

                                                              Oh, and I'm not playing safelane carry void...

                                                              P.S.:

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                                                              GM_Kappablanca

                                                                4 ways to play void

                                                                offlane -> utility (dagger aghs)
                                                                offlane -> semicarry (vlads echo)
                                                                safelane -> radiance manta
                                                                safelane -> Echo Sabre Mealström etc

                                                                Giff me Wingman

                                                                  Well, I obviously exaggerated, I'm not trash. Even though most games are in normal skill, my average KDA on Faceless Void was 12+ at the

                                                                  You are 2k shitter, you are trash no matter how you look at it ROFL.