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General Discussionhow to make sniper relevant again

how to make sniper relevant again in General Discussion
Dog

    +15 ms

    J0s3e

      That old fat fella has slow ms for a reason.

      Pale Mannie

        +25 shrapnel damage HOHO HAHA

        D the Superior
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          Rocket

            wrong question. WHY do you want to make sniper relevant again?

            Dog

              Because HOHO HAHA

              Soultrap

                Sniper is almost a good support now. Shrapnel deals 825 magic damage in aoe (if you stay there for 10 seconds, ofc). High damage, long range and low cooldown ult is welcome too.

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                  Dog

                    I mean, in my opinion each and every hero in the hero pool deserves a degree of relevance, and this last patch almost hit the spot well

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                      Ministun on headshot again

                      Story Time

                        he has an insane range with dragon lance, that is good enough. The problem is bad players who overestimate their talents and feed

                        paul

                          Make assassinate have several charges like the current bloodseeker ult

                          30 YEAR OLD DOTA VETERAN

                            Give him vision equal or even greater than his overall range+ dragonlance..... I dont understand why call him sniper when he cant see his maximum attack range??wtf?

                            Millicent of Scarlet Aeonia

                              Actually there is no problem with sniper. The real problem is that there are a lot of counter pick of him in this meta. most of them are initiators with blink dagger. Beastmaster, DragonKnight, Invoker, Lion, Sven, Jugg, slardar, between others

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                              Best Treant EU

                                + 4 base dmg

                                Il Separatio

                                  Aghanim's Scepter upgrade! xd

                                  Goldy

                                    He needs a slight base movement speed increase.

                                    M o a n a

                                      make it sound HOHO HIHI HEADSHOT LALALA

                                      Johnny Rico

                                        Ministun every hit, lul

                                        sin blyadi

                                          Passive should give true-strike. Thats all. Fits the hero-design and story

                                          BUSE

                                            What if he had a lifestealer-esque Magic immunity ability? Replace take aim with something like that and give him increased attack range.

                                            Johnny Rico

                                              when he is near trees he can attack without breaking invis, he has a passive that gives him, true strike if he is in high ground, more range and comeback with ministun.

                                              Rocket

                                                invis if no enemy hero is within 400 units of him

                                                arin

                                                  please no

                                                  Dog

                                                    Guys i said relevant, not OP. No need to squeeze your creative juices out dry to fit his lore because that would just break the balance again. Geez if sometimes i think icefrog has off-point patches with the game, everyone else have 180 degrees turnaround aim of the goal.

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                                                      Filthy

                                                        Buff his starting range oo

                                                        Filthy

                                                          Honestly though I'll take plus 6 starting damage .

                                                          Lavine

                                                            Increase his base damage +15 and attack speed +10

                                                            Legend 4/5 forever

                                                              Give him range cleave for easy farming, stacks with battlefury. Also nerf tinker kappa lul

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                                                              ✪ BATSSS

                                                                Its possible if you rework headshot...
                                                                Or maybe sharpnel... Damage buildings... (Like a long while ago)
                                                                But still uses charges...
                                                                If headshot grants either a definite stun and/or true strike/accuracy he'll be relevant as a situational hero... To counter evasion
                                                                ..

                                                                Akhistotle

                                                                  Everyone keeps bringing up the old headshot that mini stunned and had true strike. I think sniper needs stronger kiting ability, which is his strong suit. replace headshot with an ability that stacks on hit for heroes, fury swipe mechanic but not damage, but maybe a ranged cripple that lets him keep placing shots out of harm's way.

                                                                  Akhistotle

                                                                    For example call it suppressive fire.

                                                                    Sniper's attacks proc a debuff on enemy heroes slowing their movement with each hit. Max slow reached by 9/7/5/3? Attacks. Something along this line. Maybe enemies take 15% more right click from snooper when max slow but that might be too much

                                                                    SirSwirll

                                                                      You just build Windlane, SnY and phase boots http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2433374656 than you can kite a slark

                                                                      Celine

                                                                        Movement speed or starting damage
                                                                        His farming speed is not that fast and he can't really farm heroes as well as viper does (or any other hero harasser but can't flash farm cores)
                                                                        More kiting abilities will give him more hero killing potential,and more starting damage can make him farm faster and become more relevant

                                                                        SirSwirll

                                                                          That's why you max Q and wipe a stack or easily last hit in lane

                                                                          Morningstar

                                                                            assasinate becomes global (within vision) , increase str gain, introduce aghs. could be done

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                                                                              Dire Wolf

                                                                                Dude just reduce shrapnel cd and activation time, bam, fixed. That's why he was op on 683 or whatever cus instant shrapnel with low cd, they just over nerfed it.

                                                                                tv/yasinozer91

                                                                                  just give back true strike to his 3rd passive skill and give some base movement speed& nerf attack speed to balance

                                                                                  Potato Marshal

                                                                                    Nerf headshot and take aim, merge them into one ability, then add a new ability for more utility?

                                                                                    Trodlabundin

                                                                                      turn rate changed to 1.0

                                                                                      we lol now

                                                                                      sniper good now

                                                                                      Trust the plan

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