61% win rate in ranked he took me longer to understand than other carries so I basically lost every game non ranked .
How could you not like him? I mean he has a pretty big fan base, his voice actor is godlike, he's pretty cool design wise, and his lore/background isn't bad either. And nothing beats the feeling that omni slash gives you, just knowing you caught a person alone, and you realized they fucked up, and they realized they fucked up, and they have no allies to hug or creeps nearby, then the last thing they hear is: " Looks like it's just you and me. "
yea jug is fun as hell, but my games with him this month is either stomp the enemy hard or getting stomped
i started to win more when i get bf + travel 1st, just push all the time and join fights when needed
I building bf too but not travels too I usually split down the t 1s if they aren't down but find my win rate is higher if I join the fights after I get a battle fury if my team isn't doing massive fights then I'll split push as well though . Weird thing I am noticing is juggernaut is actaully capable of fighting with battle fury wand pms and phase . He farms so fast you can litterally just farm while you travel to places . Farm sAfelane then move on through middle fight if any one there if not move on too off lane farming the off creeps along the way if no enemy there take tower before you know it you got sange yasha battle fury wand and phase and have big power spike allowing the rape train to continue . Any ways all this aside you are right yorkey he is just a very enjoyable hero to play . I'm the jugernaught lich is very satisfying .
Juggernaut is a carry with a spell immunity spin that does pretty neat damage, an OP aoe heal that a carry shouldn't have, a crit passive with best RNG in the game, and the ultimate which gives him invulnerable for several seconds and deals bonus physical damage if your attacks are faster than 0.4sec/attack.
He is too good to deny, that's all.
And what if it's .4 exactly cuz juggernaut reaches .4 with moon shard sange and yasha and level 24 exatcly .
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You don't have to attack faster than .4 seconds to attack between Omnislash slashes.
juggernaut is fun but since he has low mobility, it makes him prone to ganking, high damage heroes, clinkz for example
clinkz will bring you down if he has desolator
if u see him, dont fight him, just run!
14-1 now or 18-3 however you want to slice it , that's over 300 mmr just from jugg recently .
his build are really flexible and can flash farm with bf
and you dont build dagon on him @razzledazzle
while my supports are too stupid to harass so i wont get any farm at all
Im shit with him tbh
Depends, for me veno = fun, jugg = ResidentSleeper
for some - invo, for others - slark, etc.
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he actually has a strong early, soso mid, and strong late
that inbetween phase where you're squishy is totally blehhhh
I was awful with him in 6.83 etc. But since I started playing him again, I've lost 1 in 9 games. Great fun to play and high game impact. Check it: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/93294169/matches?hero=juggernaut
This dude gets so fucking lucky, I'm not dissing your play, but like every single match the opposing team does really stupid shit or his mid dominates or his support is amazing. Just look at his matches, he gets carried by mids a lot of has offlaner feeders, heck his last match had a lc, medusa and spectre on same team.
Jug is good hero though. My teams always do stupid shit when I pick him though.
I would be losing more I am the only common demoninator in these games . I must just be playing better when using juggernaut than most people at my mmr. If I keep riding juggernaut which is likely low very high skill I will probs win like 50% of my games with him but lose with other heros except maybe bounty cuz bounty owns . http://www.dotabuff.com/players/144084132/matches?date=&hero=juggernaut&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=ranked_matchmaking&game_mode=®ion=&faction=&duration=&enjoyment=any&timezone=America%2FChicago
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2324072145 This is the game you are referencing . Actaully easily could have lost this game if I wasn't careful . Was one vs one against dusa who usually beats melee carries one vs one due to snake however jugg I admit jugg has advantage vs other melee carries due to blade spin . So not like I had easy lane . Throw in the fact that blood seeker just wanted to farm and stole a lot of my farm so he could build Dagon 5 . Also enemy mid out played my mid not aging my mid was bad but dam that was a good Lina for my mmr I was facing best Lina I've seen in awile for sure . So I had two junglers with natures prophet and Dagon blood seeker jungler in a game where we needed to win fast due to spectre and dusa on enemy team you can see why we could lose if not careful . If you look at the exp graphs later in game the spikes coincide with some Omani slashes I landed that either injured severely or killed spectre dusa and Lina who was biggest threats . We actaully took down three towers 2 melee rax and one range rax off one of the fights near the river . Don't think we would have won if that didn't happen . So ya this was a lucky win you could say but def wasn't handed to me .
Dude the game I watched that you posted in that other thread axe literally ran at you in blade fury and died FIVE FUCKING TIMES to you. I mean any carry will win that game. In the game you posted zeus is 9-4-20, over 7 kda.
Look at what I get, my mid feeds, OD + omni combo that goes 26-4-24 combined, a fucking void offlane with a dazzle support ie no way we kill him. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2293220837
Or this with a radiance jungle lifestealer and zeus shitting all over ember mid
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2291201618
I'm just saying when you are like 90% win rate on a hero that isn't like 6.81 or whatever sniper it's called luck.
jugg is decent. most important thing is he can take objectives ez with maxed healing ward. god awful vs ursa tho.
if more than 0.4 sec it hits once, so exactly why you take Battle Fury, for cleave damage and MOM for attack speed, tho I go for Manta and Butterfly
3550-3600 currently I might stay here a bit . As far as slark goes seems like I have to take control of game early and start early 5 manning to eliminate slark . With this buff to towers it may give slark some extra time to such up though . Jugg beats slark early game and maybe early mid . Usually post 20 minutes slark has a advantage unless you just shitted on him .
Rode the juggernaut back into very high skill ! http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2345513992# Slark was first game but I got new strat I try to ban slark every game and if he isn't banned I pick him . Usually he gets banned though .
I dun think you need MoM for him now. I usually rush bf > yasha > dagger > manta style > skadi/mkb > skadi/mkb.
really :( i can play any carry just fine but this hero? even my late game jugger cant make the game win :(
I build him for high dps so he never falls off , I actaully lost my first late game juggernaut last night , I built wrong 6th item for game and failed to utilize to 2 aegis and I went to deep on our gg push so I had plenty of mistakes . Actaully a pretty painful loss .
I think you should consider use mkb instead of basher. Basher now not really do more dmg compare to mkb and mkb have higher chance than basher.
Hmm, I haven't played Jugg in a while. According to dotabuff I have a 52% win rate with him, which might be a little higher since dotabuff is off with my stats since I haven't always had it on.
But I like Sven better personally, especially with the 64% win rate I hold with him. I rarly use Sven though since I feel dirty when I use him because of how easy he can control the late game.
But this isn't about Sven, it's about Jugg.
Jugg is actually pretty cool. If I see a Clinkz, or invis heroes, I see my food since I just carry dust and in normal skill people think they're safe when they're invis'd lol
I normally get Spin, and Crit maxed first, and some stats, and heal later (depends on team, if I have a dazz, omni, and necros I don't bother with my heal)
But he is a very versatile hero. I love him to death
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I used to wonder why so many people played juggernaut but dam now that I am wining with him he's fun as hell . Past 8 jugg games 8-0 .average time of game ending is 28 minutes .