Given how fat sniper is, that seems like a throw. Or, at least, a backdoor ratting strat thanks to beastmaster.
You actually maintained good net worth even if sniper got so many kills. Weird game, but you won. Good job.
Looks like you're off to a good start there. Good job out-farming your own Alchemist which i believe gives you an Agh, making you a nightmare to deal with.
Sounds like the late game got the best of your team. Unfortunate timing. I can't say much without the game not having Dbuff+
Next dude - (trying some new things with unconventional supports, tell me what I could improve on as pos 4 bloodcyka.. actually I was pos 5 because Techies player decided he didn't wanna support and chose techies lol) </3
the enemy team's composition is less shittier than yours, idk why you won
id commend that am if i could, solo lane vs razor and veno if i was him id get tilted and abandon then make a thread ranting about dogshit 2 jungle team
idk, you have healing score so maybe you spammed your q on the invo/am? still doesnt make up for the fact that you went for aether dagon, worst of all you failed at it
Your slark and dota skills in general can be worked on quite a bit. There is zero reason why you should get 1 cs per minute in lane, or after 6 for that matter.
Aquila is an okay item on slark, but nowadays you really just want to go the iron talon + raindrop build. You just get iron talon, raindrops, and treads, generally in that order. The raindrops give you mana regen, and the iron talon helps you farm your shadow blade quickly. Aquila is ok to get if you're going to be fighting early, no doubt, but in this case you definitely weren't, so it was the wrong item.
Your starting items -- salve only into wraith band, is no good. If you know you're going vs a cancerous dual lane, I like to start off with 8 tangoes, 3 branches, and a stout shield. The branches help your lane sustain by giving your more hp, int, armor, damage, attack speed, and most importantly you can eat the branches to double your tango's lifespan. Knowing invoker was in my lane to steal my cs, I'd go quelling blade tangoes stout, and promptly order myself another set of tangoes and a salve. This stuff is important, you should not have bought a wraith band. You absolutely need to have a stout shield in lane, if not that at least a ring of protection.
You need to focus on farming better. There's no reason to have 20 cs in 20 minutes, and a 25 minute shadow blade. Last hits matter.
Considering TB did not buy a manta style until 48 minutes, you should have picked up an orchid after the echo sabre or silver edge. It's just really good vs their line up in general, would punish their poor item choices, mainly it's great vs techies because he can't suicide anymore.
And lastly, you should buy a wand on slark. It's basically a core item on him.
your team was good this game. the others with worse kda has more hd than you, which means they made more game impact than you did. nice 12 kills, next time dont play passively like you did this game. actively search for kills yourself since echo sabre's slow + diffu slow + smoke slow will allow you to kill anyone, with detection
You have 2 unused slots, and a pointless void stone as a support.
Hold TPs/Dusts/Sentries/Obs/Smokes.
Smokes should never be bought from base and then used, they should already be in your inventory ready for the correct moment. And you are up against 2 invis and you don't have detection on you LUL
Pretty low hero healing for an io in a 44 min game with mek, tranq, and urn. Also that's surprisingly low HD.
That's quite a lot of deaths, but I suppose I can excuse that because of the Kunkka and Void.
everyone on ur team is absolutely god awful, with the exception of mb tiny. i would recommend not playing with people who should be multiple tiers lower
you needed to take objectives with your heroes gold advantage, idk what the map looked like but after EB you shouldve tried to force a pick with smoke so you could rosh, then push imo
its tough because they have chronosphere + luna + pa and they both had BKBs, but you're kinda fucked if you don't push because their lategame is stronger taking into account that wd cent and silencer are almost a non-factor
Ez game really, countered pl, you had good kda with lich plus you got nice expm, probably landed a sick ult while ending the game thus killing the opposition.
-Poor man's shield sucks on ranged heroes, don't get it on ranged heroes unless a very special circumstance (brood?)
-167 cs in 48 minutes equates to 3.4 per minute, you should strive for 10 but even if you're behind you should have around 300 - 350 with proper farming techniques if it's a really really hard game, but you can for sure get 10+ cs/min especially in 3k
-Not really sure about aghs. They have many ways to stop your requiem from completing channeling, frostbite, hook, dismember, bash, cold snap, silence. If anything you prioritized it wrong here.. bkb first?
-Silver edge is pretty smart, but the problem is you can't kill anyone here until you have damage. Disabling troll's bashes won't change the fact that you lack damage and that you need a bkb. You needed a bkb after shadow blade.
pretty great slark game, their team is ultra cancer and you still carried. shoutout to pugna for picking the right hero and playing smart. he had a huge impact. your timbersaw is a complete ape for not going BKB. This is a really great linkens game but i might've coupled the BKB with a moon shard instead.
Really interesting, never seen echo sabre on am. It is pretty tough playing vs those heroes early, especially with a jungler. Good thinking outside of the box.
Can 5k+ judge my mirana game.
I went aquila 15 min aghs > 22 min phase boots > 26 min blink > 32 min dagon 1 > 38 min dagon 5 > 44 min ghost > 45 min eblade> 51 min shiva > 59 min bkb
I made some mistakes like jumping into 5 heroes and getting focused while my team loses fight, which is the main problem, and I farmed badly. But I farmed badly because I tried to do something.
Clearly we had a lead. Jugg had just bfury at 18 mins and he was jungling. I knew we had to abuse this, so I asked on mic for team to use my ult and I asked legion to come gank but he only did once Jugg farmed a yasha 20 mins in.
Why when I use mic no one gives a fuck? I try to tell the team what we need to do but they literally just sit there and do/say nothing while I'm trying to initiate a smoke gank. 4.6K dota fyi. Team just wants to sit on a lead and farm even though we can abuse the fact that they are poorer than us and just jungling to catch up.
Then when I do get LC to gank with me 20 mins in he just jumps into 5 heroes and duels a lion and feeds like a 2k retard. It feels like I lose out on a fuck ton of farm when I try to actually get my team to do shit that needs to happen, I smoke gank and mirana ulti and then my LC just 1v5's and I get nothing out of it but wasted time that coulda been like 20 creep kills.
Poor mirana. Although u have stomped so hard in early game, they have better draft. Underlord and lion gives excellent combo disabling and AA supports the game well he even nullifies every healing with his global deathball.
Sorry m8 im a 1k scrub but i know how the combos and draft works. Yeah dat lc is retarded. If he wants to 1v1 he should buy aghanim and bkb. U are done good. Only retarded allies. And they have 2 supps and 1 tanky offlaner that has auto damage aura.
One more thing. OD and Underlord gives excellent synergies. Enemy can trapped 2 times. In astral and in malice pit. They have better wombo combo draft and ur lc is retarded. Necro's sadist is useless against AA's deathball
I know my LC is retarded and I played ok but that doesn't help me actually improve, I just want to know how I can better my own self to make up for teams like this, and this game was winnable, the draft wasn't the main issue or anything. Unfortunately your assessment isn't very accurate but at least you tried.
Although the draft isnt the main issue. It does matter for game impact. Its impossible to 1v9 if your team is retarded enough to not listen at u. Doto is teamwrok game not counterstrike where u can olant bomb on ancient of defuse the bomb while having deathmatch style gameplay.
No offense but this is why I asked for 5k+ opinion, your view of the game is just wrong. I played like crap myself and that's why I lost but not sure how I should e.g. farm better and be impactful
As for your game, I think you're supporting too hard. Deso on a support jug is no good , you have no hp, no survivability. I'd rather have solar crest than deso as a support jug.
You should always max your healing ward after spin. Stats on a support jugg would be better than more than 1 point in crit. Your skill build is just really wrong in general, you need to max spin first, always.
No one was really even farming on your team. There was space to farm, you don't have to hardcore support just because you're a support. Learn to be more greedy. Arcane boots on jugg is not a thing also.
Juggernaut support? Assuming based from your LH and item build. If so then you do a good job as a teamfight support with Deso for PA and Force Staff for ejecting someone in trouble during the fight.
Quick game, didn't let their carries get much farm. Not losing much towers is good too.
Given how fat sniper is, that seems like a throw. Or, at least, a backdoor ratting strat thanks to beastmaster.
You actually maintained good net worth even if sniper got so many kills. Weird game, but you won. Good job.
Cant really say something Special about your Performance. Nice supported i guess
Looks like you're off to a good start there. Good job out-farming your own Alchemist which i believe gives you an Agh, making you a nightmare to deal with.
nice game team work and guess sniper got mad at his team
Typical Meepo stomp. Wp though. A quick game too. Thumbs up
Good job on not tilting and winning with a sniper in team
Sounds like the late game got the best of your team. Unfortunate timing. I can't say much without the game not having Dbuff+
Next dude - (trying some new things with unconventional supports, tell me what I could improve on as pos 4 bloodcyka.. actually I was pos 5 because Techies player decided he didn't wanna support and chose techies lol) </3
the enemy team's composition is less shittier than yours, idk why you won
id commend that am if i could, solo lane vs razor and veno if i was him id get tilted and abandon then make a thread ranting about dogshit 2 jungle team
idk, you have healing score so maybe you spammed your q on the invo/am? still doesnt make up for the fact that you went for aether dagon, worst of all you failed at it
skill > team i guess?
Highest tower damage feelsgudman.jpg good job destroying radiant
Nice damage for a support compared to your allies
Sad about the drow
looks like ez game for you nice HD
scrubby game with cancer heroes. but easy win when they feed like that
Good KD , good impact, good teamplay.
prevented enemy from doing any pushing or farming either
btw 0 tower dmg on PA 45 minutes wtf? 313 cs was he just jungling?
Well Played on your Anti-mage I guess. High last hit count and decent tower damage and KDA.
But the Tusk was surely... extra "unusual"
i'm surprised you guys won, obviously teamplay. should've not wasted the 2k on boots i think
good GPM, XPM, LH, HD, TD. you did your best!
Your slark and dota skills in general can be worked on quite a bit. There is zero reason why you should get 1 cs per minute in lane, or after 6 for that matter.
Aquila is an okay item on slark, but nowadays you really just want to go the iron talon + raindrop build. You just get iron talon, raindrops, and treads, generally in that order. The raindrops give you mana regen, and the iron talon helps you farm your shadow blade quickly. Aquila is ok to get if you're going to be fighting early, no doubt, but in this case you definitely weren't, so it was the wrong item.
Your starting items -- salve only into wraith band, is no good. If you know you're going vs a cancerous dual lane, I like to start off with 8 tangoes, 3 branches, and a stout shield. The branches help your lane sustain by giving your more hp, int, armor, damage, attack speed, and most importantly you can eat the branches to double your tango's lifespan. Knowing invoker was in my lane to steal my cs, I'd go quelling blade tangoes stout, and promptly order myself another set of tangoes and a salve. This stuff is important, you should not have bought a wraith band. You absolutely need to have a stout shield in lane, if not that at least a ring of protection.
You need to focus on farming better. There's no reason to have 20 cs in 20 minutes, and a 25 minute shadow blade. Last hits matter.
Considering TB did not buy a manta style until 48 minutes, you should have picked up an orchid after the echo sabre or silver edge. It's just really good vs their line up in general, would punish their poor item choices, mainly it's great vs techies because he can't suicide anymore.
And lastly, you should buy a wand on slark. It's basically a core item on him.
riki mid? LUL
thanks el jefe that was really comprehensive
That game must have been terrible, picking Rubick into BH, Nyx and spirit breaker. I truly feel for you
Io with Meepo, No wonder why you had so many kills and nice job on carrying your team to victory but why Hex staff on meepo?
congratulations, you easily carried your team to victory because that slark was hella dumpstered.
your team was good this game. the others with worse kda has more hd than you, which means they made more game impact than you did. nice 12 kills, next time dont play passively like you did this game. actively search for kills yourself since echo sabre's slow + diffu slow + smoke slow will allow you to kill anyone, with detection
@haffy they were just rambo... i wasnt main damage dealer anyway, roaming smoke and shit picking off supps.
regarding your game i think you deserve higher mmr than you have cause you played quite well that game despite that godawful draft.
(p.s. skip me)
@norules I was mid for liek the first 5 minutes keeping alch behind, notice the 12 min armlet 21 min radiance. I was roaming.
@BlueFlame I got hex cuz they had lots of silences and bristleback was kind of annoying me. Made it easier to get solo kills
@good vibes, clearly your enemy doesn't know how to even counter with meepo thus gives u a very ez stomp game damn
Although your early game was up and down u have better draft to make a comeback. Sven fucks ck phantasm and PA and Omni fucks everyone...
Utilize your inventory space.
You have 2 unused slots, and a pointless void stone as a support.
Hold TPs/Dusts/Sentries/Obs/Smokes.
Smokes should never be bought from base and then used, they should already be in your inventory ready for the correct moment. And you are up against 2 invis and you don't have detection on you LUL
'something insightful'
love u long time marlan
Selfish items for a zeus support. Consider eblade/force staff
Gj with the farming. And nice choose of items. wp
Pretty low hero healing for an io in a 44 min game with mek, tranq, and urn. Also that's surprisingly low HD.
That's quite a lot of deaths, but I suppose I can excuse that because of the Kunkka and Void.
everyone on ur team is absolutely god awful, with the exception of mb tiny. i would recommend not playing with people who should be multiple tiers lower
you needed to take objectives with your heroes gold advantage, idk what the map looked like but after EB you shouldve tried to force a pick with smoke so you could rosh, then push imo
its tough because they have chronosphere + luna + pa and they both had BKBs, but you're kinda fucked if you don't push because their lategame is stronger taking into account that wd cent and silencer are almost a non-factor
Easy game with 4 stack, nice aba LUL
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Ez game really, countered pl, you had good kda with lich plus you got nice expm, probably landed a sick ult while ending the game thus killing the opposition.
Pro AM 26 kills
Edit: Double post
Hard game for you. 4v5 + Overfarmed AM. You did what you could tho.
-Poor man's shield sucks on ranged heroes, don't get it on ranged heroes unless a very special circumstance (brood?)
-167 cs in 48 minutes equates to 3.4 per minute, you should strive for 10 but even if you're behind you should have around 300 - 350 with proper farming techniques if it's a really really hard game, but you can for sure get 10+ cs/min especially in 3k
-Not really sure about aghs. They have many ways to stop your requiem from completing channeling, frostbite, hook, dismember, bash, cold snap, silence. If anything you prioritized it wrong here.. bkb first?
-Silver edge is pretty smart, but the problem is you can't kill anyone here until you have damage. Disabling troll's bashes won't change the fact that you lack damage and that you need a bkb. You needed a bkb after shadow blade.
-No tower damage, sf can rat, abuse that
-AGAIN FARM MORE
pretty great slark game, their team is ultra cancer and you still carried. shoutout to pugna for picking the right hero and playing smart. he had a huge impact. your timbersaw is a complete ape for not going BKB. This is a really great linkens game but i might've coupled the BKB with a moon shard instead.
Riki solo win, but it's a normal game...
Really interesting, never seen echo sabre on am. It is pretty tough playing vs those heroes early, especially with a jungler. Good thinking outside of the box.
Can 5k+ judge my mirana game.
I went aquila 15 min aghs > 22 min phase boots > 26 min blink > 32 min dagon 1 > 38 min dagon 5 > 44 min ghost > 45 min eblade> 51 min shiva > 59 min bkb
I made some mistakes like jumping into 5 heroes and getting focused while my team loses fight, which is the main problem, and I farmed badly. But I farmed badly because I tried to do something.
Clearly we had a lead. Jugg had just bfury at 18 mins and he was jungling. I knew we had to abuse this, so I asked on mic for team to use my ult and I asked legion to come gank but he only did once Jugg farmed a yasha 20 mins in.
Why when I use mic no one gives a fuck? I try to tell the team what we need to do but they literally just sit there and do/say nothing while I'm trying to initiate a smoke gank. 4.6K dota fyi. Team just wants to sit on a lead and farm even though we can abuse the fact that they are poorer than us and just jungling to catch up.
Then when I do get LC to gank with me 20 mins in he just jumps into 5 heroes and duels a lion and feeds like a 2k retard. It feels like I lose out on a fuck ton of farm when I try to actually get my team to do shit that needs to happen, I smoke gank and mirana ulti and then my LC just 1v5's and I get nothing out of it but wasted time that coulda been like 20 creep kills.
Poor mirana. Although u have stomped so hard in early game, they have better draft. Underlord and lion gives excellent combo disabling and AA supports the game well he even nullifies every healing with his global deathball.
Sorry m8 im a 1k scrub but i know how the combos and draft works. Yeah dat lc is retarded. If he wants to 1v1 he should buy aghanim and bkb. U are done good. Only retarded allies. And they have 2 supps and 1 tanky offlaner that has auto damage aura.
One more thing. OD and Underlord gives excellent synergies. Enemy can trapped 2 times. In astral and in malice pit. They have better wombo combo draft and ur lc is retarded. Necro's sadist is useless against AA's deathball
I know my LC is retarded and I played ok but that doesn't help me actually improve, I just want to know how I can better my own self to make up for teams like this, and this game was winnable, the draft wasn't the main issue or anything. Unfortunately your assessment isn't very accurate but at least you tried.
Although the draft isnt the main issue. It does matter for game impact. Its impossible to 1v9 if your team is retarded enough to not listen at u. Doto is teamwrok game not counterstrike where u can olant bomb on ancient of defuse the bomb while having deathmatch style gameplay.
Skip dis soy m8 reply my last match ty
No offense but this is why I asked for 5k+ opinion, your view of the game is just wrong. I played like crap myself and that's why I lost but not sure how I should e.g. farm better and be impactful
As for your game, I think you're supporting too hard. Deso on a support jug is no good , you have no hp, no survivability. I'd rather have solar crest than deso as a support jug.
You should always max your healing ward after spin. Stats on a support jugg would be better than more than 1 point in crit. Your skill build is just really wrong in general, you need to max spin first, always.
No one was really even farming on your team. There was space to farm, you don't have to hardcore support just because you're a support. Learn to be more greedy. Arcane boots on jugg is not a thing also.
Juggernaut support? Assuming based from your LH and item build. If so then you do a good job as a teamfight support with Deso for PA and Force Staff for ejecting someone in trouble during the fight.