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General Discussionnew diffusal not an orb

new diffusal not an orb in General Discussion
Dire Wolf

    Which heroes really make use of this? My first thoughts were troll, sniper and spectre. Troll lets him still get satanic which is better than vlads for him and build a really effective agi item. Problem is with all his core items you might not have room. Dominator into satanic is core, bkb is usually required, and if you don't get some mana regen on him you will be hurting so aquila is usually core too. I'm not sure when you have time to get a diffusal in there, but it is quite good on him with his attack speed.

    Spec and sniper seem obvious since they are both great skadi carriers. I usually swear by s&y on sniper but maybe now diffusal, manta, skadi would be better. Those illusions with mana burn will hit hard.

    BenaoLifedancer

      furion ofc

      Dire Wolf

        Stacking diffusal + deso?

        kr

          both are awful items on him lol

          BenaoLifedancer

            cause you're so good right? go die fucking trash smurf

            waku waku

              ranged illusions don't get manaburn dood

              pojnt

                juggernaut is one good diffusal user if enemies have ghost

                Terrible

                  most heroes wouldn't buy it anyway. Its not that its bad on a lot of heroes, its that it can't replace any of their core items and by the time they could go for it, they should be going for higher tier items like buriza, mkb, butterfly, abyssal or whatever

                  Soultrap

                    Riki.

                    Skadi+Diffusal+Manta=lots of agility.

                    Ming (Zufälliger König)

                      if its no longer an orb, does that mean it stacks with am's burn?

                      Zenoth

                        skadi diffusal was already great on riki and the mana burn wasn't very significant anyway

                        Soultrap

                          ^So this item build is even better now...

                          Totentanz to The King: M ...

                            You can go Diffusal MoM now though, and later sell mom for Skadi.

                            Soultrap

                              I know nothing about Broodmother, but she also may put Diffusal to a good use now.

                              rambosalad

                                diffusal pa super legit

                                Miku Plays

                                  diffusal skadi is nothing new on PL :/

                                  beld

                                    ^its nice that u can get both effects now though since dota 2 has no orbwalking hotkey

                                    Androgynous

                                      yeah but having 9 units draining mana instead of 10 doesn't make that big of a difference as a PL. your main hero draining mana isn't where your damage comes from, so losing that extra 25 mana burn per hit is not going to be a game changing difference

                                      beld

                                        how did u manage to get skadi effect on main and mana drain on the illus?

                                        Miku Plays

                                          drop diffusal, pickup skadi then pick up diffusal esy

                                          kord1g

                                            ^ and you should have your diffusal on higher item slot*.

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                                            beld

                                              and ur gonna do that everytime since illusions last 10 seconds?...

                                              Metallicize

                                                1 times is enough :))))

                                                MARLAN

                                                  @Ming : No. it says that specifically in patch notes.

                                                  pojnt

                                                    Diffusal MoM riki really strong holy crap

                                                    Vertoxity

                                                      Madness difu on Slark. Or Void. Or Terrorblade :-D

                                                      Dire Wolf

                                                        oh ranges don't get mana burn? I always forget that. I might not bother with it for sniper then as he needs other stats (HP!). But on void or riki, wowzas. And again it's sweet on void.

                                                        What about TA? You could still get deso with diffusal. Strong build?

                                                        And to whoever asked, it doesn't stack for AM. Mana burns don't stack.

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