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General DiscussionEmber Spirit skill build: Skipping level 2 ult until 14?

Ember Spirit skill build: Skipping level 2 ult until 14? in General Discussion
♨Dacheat♨

    How do y'all feel about this? Each level after the first is just a 50 damage increase on the remnants. IMO getting SoF topped off (or whatever skill you're maxing third) is much more important than the 50 damage increase, especially in hard games where you'll rarely be using the remnants offensively.

    Roel93

      Its definitely viable to max the other skills first. The ult is mostly utility imo. I only use it 2/3 times in a game to burst someone down when i gank.

      jo~

        its practically standard lol.

        Quick maffs

          Standard build man

          ♨Dacheat♨

            Ha I didn't see any of the builds on ES's Dotabuff page do it so I wasn't sure.

            jo~

              only situation where you might put 2nd point into remnant at lvl11 is when you are snowballing hard with 3/4 rank chains 1sleight 4 guard build so +50/remanant gives you more than rank2 sleight

              sleave

                i prefer stats over remnant, its a 50 dmg boost afterall

                i usually put a single point in SoF early to SoF + bolas combo, 4-1-4-1 basically

                ♨Dacheat♨

                  Plus if you're snowballing you'll probably be getting levels really fast anyways so maxing SoF one level late isn't a huge deal.

                  EDIT: Yeah I usually go Bolas or Flame Guard first (depends on matchup) and then max flame guard > bolas > SoF with a point in remnant at 6.

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                  allidoiswynn

                    Can someone enlighten me while people suddenly refer to chains as bolas.

                    @Topic
                    In an even game as ember is rather somethign that is just teasing the enemy endlessly while finally the enemies are weakened enough or you are in an advantagous position.
                    In that case I would rather like stats to improve your sometimes lacking manapool and increase your EHP (He is a very squsihy hero after all)

                    ♨Dacheat♨

                      Skill description: Ember Spirit unleashes fiery bolas that wrap around nearby enemies, anchoring them in place and dealing damage each second.

                      TrashPanda

                        I usually go like this:

                        1. Shield
                        2. Sleight of Fist
                        3. Shield
                        4. Bola
                        5. Bola
                        6. Ulti
                        7. Shield
                        8. Shield
                        9. Bola
                        10. Bola
                        11. Ulti or Sleight of Fist (preferance, i go for ulti most of the time because i use a lot the bursting trick, if you dont, just go Sleight of Fist)
                        12. Sleight of fist
                        13. Sleight of fist
                        14. Sleight of fist / stats (look at 11)
                        15. stats / ulti
                        16. ulti
                        17. stats / ulti
                        17+. Stats

                        jo~

                          what do you mean im pretty sure you add guard to rank 2 and above and leave other skill points open or something

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                          Born

                            I level ulti 2/3 at 24/25.

                            Born

                              @arka
                              Ember Spirit unleashes fiery bolas that wrap around nearby enemies, anchoring them in place and dealing damage each second.
                              everyone normal calls it chains.