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General Discussionif no smurfs existed, bad players would stay bad forever

if no smurfs existed, bad players would stay bad forever in General Discussion
master of the apes

    i remember playing dota and getting my shit stomped. it motivated me to get better bc i wanted to do the shit stomping.

    people who complain about smurfs are the same people who drop out of college and claim the system is rigged. they are just dumb fuccs and lazy that don't want to work to get better, they want it handed to them on a silver platter

    if you get owned by a smurf, watch his game and learn, then you will get better instead of crying about a smurf.

    smurfs let you understand how impactful 1 person can be, so use it tor stay bad

    pine apple

      bad players stay bad forever regardless of smurfs

      not everyone can be in the top x%, by definition

      tears

        makes no difference rly ur not making any impact on the future.

        Kowareta

          yeah not everyone can be 6k mmr god downbreaker pos 3 player buying greaves first item with a fucking chen on his 5
          not everybody that special
          i saw many rank 2k aniamls playing worse than archons
          for being top x% u dont need to be good, u just abuse broken shit heroes and pretend u are good

          zoi | hoodi

            If anything it's the opposite as people that get carried by the smurfs on their team gain delusions of grandeur with a lucky string of rank-ups that leaves them clinging to the dregs of their ability in ranks above their station. Over the course of thousands of games people inevitably will either gradually improve, deteriorate, or stagnate. Either way I've never really found smurfing/noobstomping fun. Those that tend to enjoy it have typically either reached their plateau in ability or, in kind, just don't care anymore, so if that's your cup of tea have at it. Be well.

            tears

              Smurfing is great lol, like its the most fun way of playing dota and its not even about stomping bad players but the ability to do things that are not viable vs decent players. I like Techies but Im really bad at it so I just play on low MMR accounts my win rate not even that good but at least I get the chance to have fun.

              AD.GokU™ | Repeat.gg

                "I smurf to make ppl good at dota"
                and here I thought this kids can't get more pathetic.

                Hitler be like "I kill jews to make the world a better place" OMEGALUL XD

                You whole post summed up:
                I can't win games at my mmr, so I play at lower mmr to stroke my ego, then to make myself feel better I go on forums and write "I'm helping ppl by smurfing". LUL

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                im MVP again  hahaha

                  Stomping noob players is much satisfying instead of getting high rank that you're not fit into 😏

                  master of the apes

                    yeah it makes me feel really good

                    master of the apes

                      i enjoy playing vs other smurfs too

                      HexyRose :X

                        I remember playing an AP game some days ago and game was going 50-50. enemy had Lich who seemed to have lag or maybe brain delay or just a new player. he didnt have enough reflex to have impact and I thought that it's ok anyway. let him only stay in game so I kinda ignored him in fights.
                        in that moment I was thinking like: what if this guy feels like he got stomp hard, unable to ply dota so he leaves this game suddenly? actually what we need first of all is a good moral behavior aside our rank
                        smurfing is bullsht and it makes ppl feel raped and they leave this game suddenly.

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                        sigh.

                          I feel like this guy got bullied a lotttttt in school and now he is compensating by playing at low ranks so can feel like a Chad for once in life. I hope you grow out of this, if not you'll be very depressed throughout life man just saying...

                          Shinra Tensei

                            I dont know what this thread is about, but i enjoy posting so here you go!

                            ||portal

                              smurfing is based so this trash game can die faster
                              btw waiting for the mass incel suicide after you spent 12k hours on a dead game nobody cares in the west

                              Taco

                                Imagine complaining that people stomp newbs in a 20+ years old game lmao

                                Meganesta

                                  there is no new player in this game
                                  Only old degenerate players

                                  master of the apes

                                    looool

                                    im a very happy man, smurfing just makes me feel even more confident about myself. i should feel confident about myself. im 26, make 100k a year, get to work from home and basically sleep and game all day, do like 2 hrs of actual work, then i go out to the lake and mountain lakes around my area and paddle-board with my chad-chizzled body with my gf. i just bought her a paddle-board bc i can afford to do it.

                                    so im very happy thank you very much theres more but i think for the sake of you apes i covered it well enuf, im also better than 99% of dota players, so that's another thing to stroke my ego

                                    A Wild Pikachu Has Appeared!

                                      i smurf only to play with my friends, dota is just boring now for me to play solo, MOBA games toxicity at its finest

                                      AD.GokU™ | Repeat.gg

                                        "I'm a happy man"
                                        "Smurfing makes me feel confident"

                                        OMEGALUL

                                        HexyRose :X

                                          ^^rank 285 in SEA = Ancient in europe
                                          (and I'm going completely fair)

                                          Paimon

                                            A Wild Pikachu Has Appeared! seems sus. This guy account was on sale. lol

                                            Dreadnought325

                                              Good players might improve when they play with or against smurfs. Bad players should go and watch more Youtube videos, but hey, it is much harder to smurf nowadays as say compared to 2-3 years ago.

                                              ET

                                                I disagree.
                                                If there were absolutely no smurfs, then the vacuum would work: people would play with others at their skill level until they are good enough to play people at the next level. If they are beaten back down by those higher rated players it means they aren’t good enough to consistently play at that tier yet. As for players who are stagnating or even regressing, they are booted out by their peers, and they have to earn back their place in that higher bracket again. It will statistically lead to the normal bell curve of skill rating to number of players. Smurfs, boosters, account buyers throw wrenches into that system.

                                                I can’t believe I took time to think and type this out on yet another shit bait post but it’s done so here have it.

                                                Edit: I say this as someone who has smurf accounts in Counter-Strike and Valorant, and also used to have smurfs in Dota when they didn’t require a phone number.

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                                                ET

                                                  My point above is that if the “bad players” want to get better, they have to prove that they can beat the other players in their bracket, then progress by playing against the next bracket and winning. All the crap about analyzing the smurf’s game to improve your play or w/e dumbass arguments pro-smurfing would apply to this scenario as well. They don’t have to get their shit stomped in by someone even 1000 MMR above them for the lessons to apply.
                                                  Ex. 2.8K player wants to move up to 3K? Plays in a 3K match and loses? He can try to find ways to learn to get better and be able to win at that level. Watch the replay, ask a coach, look up guides, etc. Shouldn’t have to get whacked by a 4K player where everyone else is 2.8-3K, because he’s nowhere near there yet.

                                                  Basically, your “sink or swim” mentality vs “walk before you can run”

                                                  Dreadnought325

                                                    @ET, you missed the point. Smurfing is unfair for the side with smurfs, but the point here is about learning. A smurf may play a hero which a good player is familiar with, and subsequently shows off certain farming patterns, or item builds that may be useful for the good player who wants to learn. Usually innovation happens with smurfs who want to try something new that may not work in his own bracket. However, too many smurfs would definitely spoil the game. If you have like 2 smurfs on each side, it would be hard for players to see the usefulness of the strategy used by smurfs.

                                                    AD.GokU™ | Repeat.gg

                                                      Smurfing is just buying a fleshlight/dildo cause you don't have the ability to do it with a real person. xD

                                                      #provemewrong

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                                                      Goju

                                                        people who enjoy thrashing lower bracket and feel good are insecure as f