id argue phantasm, epicenter, flesh golem, earth splitter, even gods strength are all significantly worse than omnislash.
Play a support against jugg i dare you, i double dare you evertime an enemy pick jugger, you pick a slow ass support without any save and slow farm. Got invis? He got a dust. Got an eul or ghost scepter? Now he go for nulifier. Got butterfly and halberd? Just MKB. Enemy had a strong passive and regen? Skadi and Silver edge. You want another omnislash? Aghanim it is. The only you could fight jugg is just hope that all his ability and item are on cooldown
It is unreliable, cause it's used by idiots who themselves are unreliable.
"It can be stopped by Eul's, linkens, Lotus orb, Invis, ...etc"
You know linkens doesn't counter omnislash, it only blocks the first slash.
Lotus Orb has a massive visual effect. (in archon brackets, i don't think players have the mental capacity to watch for omni slash animation mid team fight and cast lotus accordingly)
Euls is only a counter early to mid game.
If your jugg gets his omni slash countered by invis. (Either you suck as support for not carrying detection if you are with him else typical archon thing where cores refuse to carry dust. "Invisibility is invulnerability" in low mmr brackets, it's not limited to omnislash.)
"Why the fuck do people still pick this shit hero, everytime my carry pick jugg i want to afk shadow amulet"
This is your mentality, and you cry about low bhs pretending to be a victim of party stacks. That's a massive Weirdchamp.
The guy who posted this is a fucking archon noob. So don't take him seriously. Linkins block omnislash. This statement ended the conversation. His iq is lower than my cat.
Juggernaut is a fucking trash carry, outside of his already trash tier ultimate he can't man fight most of the carries with equal farm.
The monkey above me, your most played hero is juggernaut and you cant even get more than 50% winrate with him lmao, maybe quit playing this retard ass hero that your defending, no omnislash won't get you a rampage like you think.
The only time his ultimate can be decent is if you have aghanim and bait their defensive items with it then use the real omnislash.
I think this hero is only popular because of being the easiest hero to last hit with so new players tend to like him. Also he's a pretty strong laner and can dominate a lane. But after that if the enemy team has a real carry like terrorblade and you don't snowball and end it early you will most likely lose.
For the ape who said about try playing support, when i play support i never die to juggernaut simply because of a cheap ass item called ghost scepter
"The guy who posted this is a fucking archon noob. So don't take him seriously. Linkins block omnislash. This statement ended the conversation. His iq is lower than my cat."
@Ronnie:- Man that's a pretty mean thing to say. How can u insult your cat like that.
@Guetal stop embarrassing yourself and delete this post lmfao
I didn't laugh so hard in a long time.
Oh yeah i forgot that juggernaut never build any stun or dispel. And i also totally forget that juggernaut is the only hero in the map not other 4 heroes who have magic damage or disable of some sort. And i also totally forget that juggernaut can cast item while omnislashing so i didn't have to get nullifier or abbysal blade or some sort. And i also totally dont know if juggernaut could decimate a fucking 5k HP Centaur with just one ulti and silver edge. At least i have functioning brain cell
Guys my point is clear. This archon says jug is trash with his ultimate. Do u know ti8 the final match miracle played jug and won the ti for liquid. If it's a trash hero which can't do shit without ultimate can't man fight then why pro pick it in a international. I asked sorry to my cat by the way. She gave me a hate stare. I have less than 50 percent winrate it's because I was trash at the hero. Dont blame the hero unless the whole dota world is unable to play it. Jug is really amazing and I have taken Rampage with 1 omnislash. Also the hero provides heal to allies which most pos1 don't. A inbuilt bkb which helps in ratting and pushing lanes. Before 7.25 patch. Omnislash had tp in it. It was so op if u get caught against 5 hero
U just omnislash n tp base. Jug is and was a good hero. U just need some brains n balls
Battle Trance is bad ? Im currently spamming Troll and you just have to know when to use it. On lvl 25 his ultimate is OP because it works like Ursa's ultimate with aghanim.
People forget that you can use spells and items to for example direct Troll with Abysal active.
@lex, did they not remove item usage during trance ?
As far as I know, you can only use his other 2 spells during his trance now.
phantasm, epicenter, flesh golem, earth splitter, even gods strength are all significantly worse than omnislash
Excuse me what? All of these ults are situationally strong as fuck?
Worst ultimates are Vendetta, Walrus Punch, Rupture, Call Down and Laguna Blade. All single target ults which dont do much damage and are pretty easy to survive. Granted laguna blade is powerful as fuck early game. Rupture is complete garbage, Walrus Punch does no damage and is more useful as a disable than anything (1 second stun for an ultimate - pitiful), Call down's most useful feature is its slow which isnt even that good, it does barely noticeable damage thank fuck it has a short cd. and Vendetta is just mega underwhelming everytime.
On the other hand battle trance is super annoying to deal with and pretty strong, omnislash is stronger than battle trance simply because you can use items such as nullifier during its duration in order to make your ult more effective.
Battle trance is by faar better ultimate than omnislash the fuck u on about.
The only carry with a close enough shit ultimate is terroblade, against decent teams and with the slow ass animation on sunder + it doesnt pierce bkb i have no clue why metamorphosis is not his ultimate instead of that shit spell. BUT ITS STILL WAY BETTER ULTIMATE THAN OMNISLASH
This shit is a Riki player that's why he blames all ultimates. Tell me archon shit which is the best hero and the best ultimate for a POS 1 carry
VENDETTA IS BAD??? wtf its not abt the damage lmfao u dont even have to hit people out of vendetta... i can kinda agree with laguna blade actually, but rupture has its utility and call down is pretty strong in early fights. keep in mind even most of the "worst" ultimates in the game still have uses i just think theyre either bad cuz the cd is too long on shit like epicenter or it just doesnt do as much as u would like it to. omnislash is a good ultimate but id argue its cd is too long and jugg is too reliant on omnislash. he can somewhat mitigate this with aghs tho. however flesh golem is just ass honestly, phantasm is strong but the cd is too high and ck doesnt do a lot without phantasm, earthsplitter is unreliable, gods strength is ok but its cd is too long for what it does. walrus punch is super strong i mean its a 500 damage crit at min 10-15 thats bkb piercing stun. its not broken but its definitely good enough. idk man parma ur opinions are just wack to me
VENDETTA IS BAD??? wtf its not abt the damage lmfao u dont even have to hit people out of vendetta...
Vendetta is silver edge on triple the cooldown and triple the mana. It does less damage and has worse move speed than skeleton walk, and has less utility than shadow walk
but rupture has its utility
Completely counterd by teleport scroll, does no damage to people who can play the game and requires a disabler on your team to even use it. The only good thing about this ult is it can heavily restrict the movement of enemy cores in the moment and it does counter some heros such as Pangolier and Windranger, however it is still a very weak ultimate
flesh golem is just ass honestly
Flesh golem has a powerful aura and makes you pretty hard to kill. Very underrated spell especially in teamfights, plop down a tombstone, use your ult and bully the enemy cores.
cd is too long on shit like epicenter
Epicentre has a 100s cd which is pretty standard for a big aoe teamfight ult. This ult is like echo slam in the sense that it works best when paired with your other abilities
jugg is too reliant on omnislash
Not really. Jugg is a pretty amazing man fighter with his crit and pocket spell immunity is never a bad thing.
walrus punch is super strong i mean its a 500 damage crit at min 10-15 thats bkb piercing stun
The problem is this ability doesnt synergise well with the hero. Tusk doesnt usually want to build damage items so his ult scales so badly throughout the game. 1 second stun is underwhelming as hell even if it pierces spell immunity. Skull basher has similar effects, and spell piercing ultimate stuns normally have a far longer duration than this (Primal Roar and Reverse Polarity for instance).
I dunno. I just ult someone random and the fight is 4v5 and we usually win. Easy pz
^ive realized this, literally all im reading are words with no meaning. its like she just say any bunch of words stringed together even though they have no meaning but pretend they mean something.
Why do people still bother arguing with parma she has the mental capacity of a child.
This 50% 3k games pseudo-divine got banned for being rude as fuck and the first thing he does it come here and be rude as fuck. Yet I am the one with the mental capacity of a 'child'.
This 50% 3k games pseudo-divine got banned for being rude as fuck and the first thing he does it come here and be rude as fuck. Yet I am the one with the mental capacity of a 'child'.
Yes after 3k Games i finally managed to hit divine 1 again play a POS 5. You on the other hand have spent 5k GAMES playing and you're still a low archon with basically 0 game knowledge.
GTFO
Uh I have played only about 800 games over the course of which I gained 3,000 mmr, you are bragging about being carried to divine 1 after 3000 ranked games when you were in the high skill bracket to begin with. Your entire time on dota being one long plateau with 0 progression. Must suck knowing you are never going anywhere in this game, your games must be so boring. I would have given up ages ago in your position.
"Must suck knowing you are never going anywhere in this game, your games must be so boring."
Literally every single person outside of 0.00000000001% of people that play this game.
Uh I have played only about 800 games over the course of which I gained 3,000 mmr, you are bragging about being carried to divine 1 after 3000 ranked games when you were in the high skill bracket to begin with. Your entire time on dota being one long plateau with 0 progression. Must suck knowing you are never going anywhere in this game, your games must be so boring. I would have given up ages ago in your position.
I've already achieved in this game more than you can ever dream of you sad clown :P
I've already achieved in this game more than you can ever dream of you sad clown :P
What? You havent achieved anything in this game - are you delusional? You think a 3000 game long plateau is an achievement? Neither of us have achieved anything in this game and its unlikely either of us ever will so dont talk to me about ‘achievement’ in a video game.
not missing much. All he would have said would be ape this and ape that plus some axe laughing emotes.
axe_laugh axe_laugh axe_laugh axe_laugh
why my axe won't laugh
classic 2 monkeys arguing xd, just call someone shit once and move on, whats the point of doing this shitty dance of "ur shit but im not" then other person goes "actually im epic and ur shit" and then it repeats for infinity. zzzzzz
I already played 3 games and won three games with ags. I used both omnislash to prove this dog wrong
Omnislash when used correctly is one of the best ultimates in the game. As proven in TI 9 when jugg held mega creeps for 20 minutes and then proceed to man slaughter the enemy and win the game
Yes please nerf Juggggg! He's too strong in the laning stage and he always takes the 1st rune no matter what.
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Jugg's ulti is the most unreliable and hands down shittiest ultimate in the game.
It can be stopped by Eul's, linkens, Lotus orb, Invis, ...etc hence even PA's blur will cancel it lmao
Why the fuck do people still pick this shit hero, everytime my carry pick jugg i want to afk shadow amulet