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General DiscussionWhat hero has the best talents in the game?

What hero has the best talents in the game? in General Discussion
Clippy

    Imo it's Kunkka, all of his talents are really good. He also has probably one of if not the best level 10 talent in the game.

    rank 1 AML mafia player

      some support talents are so stupid, like cm and lion. they may not work with the hero itsself but theyre just good talents overall. but i think ogre 90gpm is pretty awesome

      klit0r

        tuskar

        Oldman

          Ck probably

          Fuka suginai o nīchan

            Dont think there is a best because most support talents are pretty stupid op.
            And yea tusk has some next lvl shit

            kowareta

              Blood suka

              Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                Invoker 5 second cold snap is OP

                Glimmer of Dawn

                  Nature's Prophet's talents are amazing too

                  Sukuna

                    Warlock has pretty good talents too

                    Spírít

                      Crystal Maiden

                      Moranague

                        This list isn't at all comprehensive, but here are some of my thoughts:

                        Broken Tier:

                        Warlock
                        Tusk
                        Undying
                        Ogre
                        Enigma
                        Enchantress
                        Chaos Knight
                        Wind Ranger
                        Storm Spirit (though it should be noted that overload pierces immunity is the single worst talent in the entire game)
                        Tinker
                        Io

                        Great Tier

                        Kunkka (was god tier due to #s, but recent nerfs shift it down a tad)
                        Wraith King
                        Brood Mother
                        Shadow Shaman
                        Naix
                        Dazzle
                        Luna (try the caster build, it's seriously legit at times)
                        Lion (would be god tier, but the level 25 talent AOE hex talent just doesn't come into play often enough)
                        Necrophos

                        Decent Tier

                        Jakiro
                        Juggernaut
                        Centaur
                        Axe
                        Nature's Prophet
                        Rubick
                        Mirana
                        Weaver

                        Mediocre Tier

                        Razor (seriously has some underwhelming talent choices)
                        Leshrac
                        Night Stalker (the #s are not bad, but he only gets 2 skill upgrading talents, both of which are at level 25).
                        Vengeful Spirit
                        Timbersaw
                        Magnus

                        Bad Tier

                        Riki (the #s are just so bad, outside of smoke screen CDR, it feels like none of his talents have any impact).

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                        '96 Neve Campbell

                          Tusk, Viper, Queen of Pain, Crystal Maiden, Warlock, Undying

                          JDF8

                            NP talents are indeed ridiculous

                            Väinämöinen

                              Jakiro? 40% xp at 15, 150 GPM at 20, option for infinite stun or megadamage on lvl 25....

                              bibotot1995

                                Warlock talents are ridiculously good. +60% experience gain in unreal, and having 4-5 Golems with magic immunity can completely wreck the enemy in the late game.

                                Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                                  Faceless Void... time walk cd at lvl 15 is OP, backtrack talent is OP too

                                  JDF8

                                    wisp used to be indisputable #1 most busted when he had aghs tether, but he still gets spirit slow/damage, armor, attack tether ally target which is pretty broken

                                    Fuka suginai o nīchan

                                      True warlock talents are insane

                                      Fuka suginai o nīchan

                                        Had a game as weaver vs a warlock, if i didnt go daedalus we actually would have lost the game, none had the dmg to deal with them. Those golems deal insane dmg and are srsly tanky.

                                        Talker

                                          I think that the strongest are the early (lvl 10/15) XP talents.

                                          One hero that wasnt mentioned is Tide. It gives him 2 ways to go - spellcaster/utility or damage dealer.
                                          He can become utility/spellcaster - Gush with 360 damage, -12 armor, 40% slow spell, which can have huge AOE on 5sec CD (with aghs and CDR talent). I might try that with octarine core - 4 sec cooldown on Gush and 84 seconds on Ravage might be quite impactful.
                                          He can become burst hero and use those -12 armor to crit for 2k with +250 damage talent.
                                          He can become frontline tank with kraken shell and anchor smash talents.

                                          A lot of options to go with and huge lvl 25 talents - if you are snowballing, you can burst even tankiest heroes.

                                          Annie-Mal

                                            ITT:
                                            Noobs giving their opinion

                                            StaRBerry

                                              Tide shouldn't be played anything but gush/xp/gush/250 & stomp the game with early scepter/soulring.

                                              legend = nEW herald

                                                Tidehunter and Queen of pain

                                                CoL.Limmp

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