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General DiscussionWhat the hell happened to Team Liquid?

What the hell happened to Team Liquid? in General Discussion
Vengeance

    2nd from bottom in their group. Is it because they kicked MATU and brought in a tier 2 player to replace him?

    Grimm

      They aren't a team, they win their lanes and then procede to play a pub
      They keep losing to low tier teams and even in their winning game it's always inconsistent and each player keep throwing

      Glimmer of Dawn

        Well performance in group doesn’t necessarily translate to main event performance. Don’t write them off yet.

        LegendaryHD

          Currently OG has the high points I'd like to see them win twice but I'd also love to see my fav EG win.

          AnŦaiN

            Some guys here definitely dont understand the lower bracket strat

            Vengeance

              What is this "lower bracket strat" that you speak of?

              Kotato

                ^that just confirms his hypothesis that you do not understand this concept. But also it means you are stupid since you ask instead of googling

                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                  instead of trying to fix their problems as a team, they changed the least problematic player. they really should stop sucking miracle's dick a little bit and see things for as they are.

                  Glimmer of Dawn

                    I can understand the idea behind dropping Matu though. He’s a stable core but rarely pushes the envelope. So yeah he will rarely mess up but having him as a core can make your draft more predictable and counterable.

                    I was reflecting on my own play as a safe and stable support main, that I need to incorporate more aggression and forcing of mistakes, if I’m going to keep improving. Playing safe and stable will only get you so far in this meta.

                    Vengeance

                      @61 years old Ever heard of sarcasm bro?

                      LegendaryHD

                        "lower bracket strat"
                        As dumb as him.

                        Pale Mannie

                          they liquified

                          ywn

                            Miracle.is a last.pick player and they gave w33 his role half the games

                            MuLLi

                              Employ a Finn to win! No Finn no win!

                              OG pretty OP as they have 2 Finns!

                              Think about if some team will get 3,4 or 5 Finns for TI!

                              Glimmer of Dawn

                                So you are a Finn?

                                MuLLi

                                  Yes I'm Finnish!

                                  LucaManny

                                    Its simple.
                                    Back then they get 2nd at epicenter because they let this tier 2 midlaner spamming brain dead no skill hero.
                                    Now he cant get his heroes, then he have no clue what to do

                                    This prove my hypotesis that WR spammer actual mmr is 1k lower when playing other heroes

                                    P.S sorry glimmer, nothing personal here

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                                    Cheap Laugh Guy

                                      Because their power of friendship is gone

                                      '96 Neve Campbell

                                        I enjoy watching their rabid fans get disappointed every year.

                                        ywn

                                          oh every year? like in 2017?

                                          ywn

                                            miracles still the best player in the world hoes mad parma

                                            poggies

                                              It’s because they play like the enemy won’t punish them and give them openings to win the game. Same like eg

                                              flourishing new leaf

                                                They go weird ass shit drafts... like how puppy used to throw. They will learn from it

                                                Glimmer of Dawn

                                                  @ Desephviasco

                                                  Fair enough. I see where you’re coming from.

                                                  A. Personally I don’t find wr problematic. But generally if the pick isn’t protected I know specific go to heroes to make her sad.

                                                  https://www.dotabuff.com/players/7195861/matches?date=all&opponent_hero=windranger&enhance=overview

                                                  61% winrate lifetime vs wr, 58% this season.

                                                  B. Windrunner core is pretty strong and if you have good farm it’s pretty simple to dominate. If you’re a support and you play that way you’re gonna melt though.

                                                  C. I think you’re going to need more evidence to prove your hypothesis.

                                                  But I’ll take it as a compliment that you’re willing to make an exception for me by apologising ;) Even though I still don’t care about what people think of me, thanks though hehe

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                                                  Cheap Laugh Guy

                                                    WR is OP
                                                    Needs a nerf, but that's 3 months after TI.
                                                    There's another team that can do WR mid but I guess they're saving strat.

                                                    flourishing new leaf

                                                      They should ban zeus, first pick mirana, pick a tanky motherfucccker like timber and go something like drow and furion ez win gg wp

                                                      .,,

                                                        These dumbfucks thinkin theres such a thing as lower bracket strat.
                                                        Also op trying to look like he understands this stupid shit by saying he was being sarcastic. Double brain damage.

                                                        Murranji

                                                          Well the good thing is I predicted OG to win the tournament. Easiest 2500 battle points I will ever make.

                                                          LucaManny

                                                            https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4973159453

                                                            WR spammer going 3-12 with LAST PICK PANGO

                                                            Glimmer of Dawn

                                                              Didn't watch the game but I'm confused by picking Pango mid into DP. Isn't that just a great matchup for DP? *Thinking*

                                                              Grimm

                                                                I think it was a last pick dp, but w33 already played a pango game and he was so shit it hurt

                                                                Glimmer of Dawn

                                                                  Dotabuff says 18th (Ban/Pick) DP vs 22nd (Ban/Pick) Pangolier.

                                                                  It says on the match overview.

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                                                                  Vengeance

                                                                    Worst group stage finish since TI6. Bring back MATU #MakeLiquidGreatAgain

                                                                    Grimm

                                                                      I'd be an upstet if liquid beat fnatic in the Bo1, fnatci doens't diserve a top16

                                                                      А

                                                                        Matu kicked was absolutely disgusting, kuroky should not accept that if manager of team wanted to do a change, hes dota hard worker, his stats during being in Liquid are amazing.
                                                                        They clearly miss him there.

                                                                        KUKULAMIN KA BUT THE K IS...

                                                                          My boy artour finna win some dotes

                                                                          Glimmer of Dawn

                                                                            EG and Liquid both had terrible Day 1

                                                                            EG upper bracket.
                                                                            Liquid lower bracket.

                                                                            Night and Day.