it actually better.
if i want pick fucking safelane, i won't fight with other ppl stealing my lane.
no pa first pick
no jug first pick
no alche first pick
no rage support because they didn't get their carry
Better? People party nowadays, and look at my last bounty hunter game, my mid feed 1-11 and his oracle blame me as bounty PoS 4 when i am the one buying ward and carrying early game, and he report me because i a offlane pos 4 bounty cannot carry the game. If that is not bullshit i dont know what it is
So people in dota are sometimes dicks and argue and report you for no valid reason?
Tell me something new. How is this worse than the old system?
Well in old system at least people have some respect when you are picking supps, that is why i change to supp role. But damn it just has become worse after the new system ( because people blame other people than their own noob feeding friend)
I better have solo retarded teammates than having retarded party teammates in mmr. Because if solo i can still talk some sense to it. I mean dude wtf, my behavior score went from 9.8 to 8.5k since this new system implemented. And i am not even talking at all when playin, wtf is that?
dude no one asking you to play party, just check "strict solo matchmaking" on your setting and move on with your life
Do you think i havent done that already? Nowadays i always meet 2-3 people party, im not even shitting you
Are you telling me u q for solo mm and meet other party stack even tho you checked the strict solo thingy?
ive looked into your BH game and i dont think Oracle and TA are partied, since theres no indicator on Dotabuff that those 2 are partied.
xD dont blame the mm system because its better now honestly all you did is blame the system when its your problem you cant win games
123 why? the thing i protest is how people in mmr report their supps for not carrying the game despite their friend feeding 1-11...isnt that normal?
Oooooh right. Makes sense now.
"I have forced solo mm guys, nowadays I always meet 2-3 in party. SO WEIRD RIGHT"
- Glimmer of Dawn launches Dota 2.
- Glimmer of Dawn searches replays match id 4972094945
TA, Oracle and Alchemist are indeed in a party...
And so is Rimuru BH and MoonLight SK.
Dude, of course you're going to get matched with 2-3 stacks, when you yourself are in a 2 stack. What do you expect? Forced solo mm only works when you are searching BY YOURSELF.
And of course people are prone to arguing when there's 2 + 3 party matchmaking. They can't and won't blame their teammates so they are more likely to blame you. It's called tribalism, you can see this happening with anything like sports and politics.
Good job coming on forums to blame matchmaking changes for your shit dota experience though. Whoops.
Yeah you've got an attitude issue, can see it immediately.
You wanna whine, don't check your facts from a game you played less than 24 hours ago (how did you already forget?), double down on your mistake, and point me to the BH game before, because... you won it? Hm.
Oh and then you go to an entirely separate thread and say "Nikki omg people report me, old mmr wasn't like this whyy"
I've been really helpful on these forums for the past few weeks. There's just a huge difference between someone who comes onto forums with genuine questions and wanting help "Hey, can you help me, I don't understand this?", and those who post threads who just want sympathy and want people to feel sorry for them that the big bad Volvo bully them with their new shitty matchmaking system. "Damn I don't know why, it's harder... If that is not bullshit i dont know what it is"
So I'm gonna call it out for what it is.
funny how only low skill idiots complain about the system when in reality it only affects high rated ppl because of mmr discrepancy
get a grip fa ggot
^ totally true
i expected immo players whining about getting divines, but mostly archons crying
well if u dont wanna answer dont answer, i just asking why it becomes harder not asking Hey tell me i have attitude issue bla bla bla
well it adds up that when people ask nicely only to be insuled say much about how cancer it is. Thank you for showing the answer, end of story
I already answered your question:
Glimmer of Dawn (2 hours ago): "And of course people are prone to arguing when there's 2 + 3 party matchmaking. They can't and won't blame their teammates so they are more likely to blame you. It's called tribalism, you can see this happening with anything like sports and politics."
You just chose not to read it. The problem you are experiencing has nothing to do with the MMR system. It's to do with the fact that you probably have an attitude issue, argue with people who are stacking with people, who then argue back because they don't want to blame their teammates. Then you probably get into a flame war and earn yourself a report.
You didn't ask nicely. I specifically quoted you as not asking nicely. Hence attitude problem.
If I, the guy who literally wrote a hundred helpful posts on this forum in 3 weeks, am taking issue with your posting style. Maybe, just maybe. There's an issue with YOU rather than everyone else.
Rimuru, as a professional teacher, I'm very much inclined to help you.
If you've got a play issue, I'm more than happy to help you get better at the game.
Hell, I trust my reads of people, even over the internet. If you want generic life advice, I can help you there too.
But if you just want to just come onto dotabuff forums in order to complain and get sympathy, I'm here to tell you: I'm the nicest guy on this forum who will just be honest with you: you are looking in the wrong place for sympathy.
Damn, that was well said from glimmer of dawn.
Tbh I also hated the new mmr system at first since I thought it will not work, then I got surprised when it did work. There are many people who always plays party right now and I know some people dont deserve their mmr because someone part of their party excelled the most so they just get carried.
When the time comes and they solo, they dont know what to do and only blames their teamates when they cannot carry them, such a retarded way of thinking. Instead of focusing your team's mistake, you should focus yours.
You only know how to whine and cry, try to play using your head and learn from your mistakes. And don't implant your way of thinking to those who rank higher than yours, it's cancerous teaching them how to play when you yourself are below them.
As my teacher said, whinning is for bitches.
^I'm one of those guys who win with team and lose as solo. Yes I get carried by my team mates when I play Treant but it is treant so ofc it need to be carried. When I play solo as Treant my core players do not carry me as they should
Isn't every support really carried in every game?
@Customizerin
So if I raise my mmr by partying I would not deserve my mmr because my core players have carried me?
Lol what are you saying, if you can win games and know how to play without someone telling you what to do, then you deserved it. If you wait for commands then you have a long road buddy, you need to make your own decisions and be practical. Even though it's wrong, ITS OK since if you're wise enough, you know you wont do it again. Otherwise, you won't improve and just leech with your party members.
Oh, you're not getting the point. Being the one commanding is not based on the hero, it is based on the player. And btw, i dont know the reason if you cant rank up solo, if you're telling the truth that is, because i have plenty of friends who climbed from legend to divine solo by playing suppports, not treant specifically but suppprt heroes.
Sadly it is not so coordinated at pubs and everyone like to lead.
I just hate how people always says someone being carried. If MM works how someone could be carried if everyone plays their main account?
Hmm seems like you're the type of person who likes to lead but somewhat lacking. Do you want me to assess you by checking your replays if you deserve your current mmr? I might be of help on your weakpoints
So you when you play solo, you lose right? Seems like you need to improve your mechanical skills, you already have the advantage when it comes to communication skills since you can easily communicate to someone who'd likely listen to you but what about a random player? They cant adjust to you, you need to adjust to them
^yes that is the problem in solo! Fucking hard to adjust when I have no clue what they would do and when
@Customizerin
yes ofc u can watch my replays and point mistakes it is really welcome. It is sometimes hard to see own flaws
@Kowareta
Yes,
Yes, Yeah, and YES
The new system is better... Just removing the "we don't have to fight about the roles" thing, is already a vast improvement on anything we had before. It already defuses the situation and lessens tilt that can be achieved at the draft. So everyone has a little bit less venom coursing through their veins when the game starts.
Now, as to the guy who goes on and on about a game where friends blame your support hero for everything??? People are still idiots... They will lash out blame way before they look at themselves, but when your 1-11 mid laner is blaming you, I am quite sure you just weren't silent in the situation? You don't have to say anything. People have bad games... Have really bad matchups etc. Everybody needs help from time to time... You blaming people will never result in anything positive. I don't think he was trying to feed until you said something???
I dont know, maybe you have a low behaviour score? I have 9k score and playing core has never been this refreshing because i actually get comepetent supports who knows what the fuck they are doing and dont flame or grief you the moment you make a mistake. In the old system people would pick support just because the team needs it and not because they want to so they end up becoming toxic as hell
^same I have 8.7 behavior score and never had ruiner in my game in this new matchmaking update, people pick heroes based on their role.
So my conclusion is OP is an animal and playing with other animal so yeah.
^its all good, till they picked "hard support" slark and "offlane" drow ranger. Oh my behaviour score is 10 btw
U guys all only talking abt beh score, u all forget about bracket. I have 2k smurf with 9k beh score and when i queue solo (for testing out the theory) you can see stupid shit like drow or pa offlane, lc/veno/lycan 'soft support' that just go jungling. And this problem is not because they are toxic at all, but because they are 2k and they all stupid
but because they are 2k and they all stupid
:( very strong language 2k might try to search for your location.
This system shouldnt be implemented below 2.5k because they dont even have knowledge about role and position, and not above 5k (or 5.5k? Or 6k?) Due to lack of playerbase combined with role mm will create huge mmr disrepancy and its create imbalancement. I personally think its good if it only an option tho
^Good idea also I am a core player but what happen when I reach high bracket I can't play core anymore because anyplayer higher than me will take that lore :(
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Damn i dont know why but this new system make me feels people get more and more cancer, it is actually harder to win a game in ranked game now