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General DiscussionRole MMR - What do you think of it?

Role MMR - What do you think of it? in General Discussion
kiM

    I personally think the idea has a lot of potential to improve the game and reduce toxicity, excited to try it out later today!
    Here is the update link in case you are unaware of the changes: http://blog.dota2.com/2019/08/matchmaking-update-2/

    kill my pain

      Over the next year, we’ll be spending more time focusing on various aspects of matchmaking

      so never

      kiM

        Not sure what you mean by "never"? They plan to improve upon the idea already in place.

        kill my pain

          yeah, they're trying this thing out until the end of the season and then its gonna die when they stop investing into it. the same way they did with role mm last year, the same way they did with removing all pick from ranked 3-4 years ago, and whatever else they did to >>improve<< matchmaking

          kiM

            I see your frustration. Valve has promised a lot, and improving a MOBA isn't an easy task. I think what we can do is hope for the best and provide them with data.

            parmaviolets

              I like it on paper. Just hope they finally allow people to have a fresh start by wiping mmr entirely instead of basing the mmr on our old mmrs. Grinding high 2k is painful. Would be nice to either calibrate at mid 3k or 1k so I never have to grind again

              9o_o6

                did everyone's mmr get reset to like 3.8k?

                Kowareta

                  its very strange, 4k mmr support is far better than 4k mmr core. winning games by supporting is much harder.

                  parmaviolets

                    ^ I got reset to 3200

                    Kowareta

                      that was very rude parma-chan =))

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                      Aimstrong

                        i played 2 amazing Rubick games and i think that's it, dota is finally cured!

                        this update is an european buff because only russian pick 4 cores with pos 5 pudge or play some jungle wk and end up winning somehow.
                        now they are forced to pick normal stuff which they cant play because all this time they all played pudge, techies, tiny as a griefing support when they didnt get core

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                        MuLLiPullervO

                          So what stops me from picking queue as support and then pick some core?

                          tragedy among gods

                            ^ Reports. Reports stop you. That option does not take away reports from the 3 reports you can have.

                            Gym 5 days Rest 2 days

                              I was still calibrating - had just one more game left to get my party mmr medal :(

                              Tulfo and Chill

                                Why my mmr didnt recalibrate? :3 Tf this update. And it becomes Core and support . :/

                                FingerMingle

                                  I'm already seeing rank 1k immortals pairing with legend smurfs to steal 40 mmr per game from us 4500mmr ancient scrubs

                                  afk.ForgotteN希望

                                    hey guys do i still rank up even if it is through support mmr? i recently got ancient 5 and and i've played 4 or 5 games after, won all of them. but the percentage is gone, so i was wondering if any of you ranked up throught support mmr

                                    Kowareta

                                      ^they made 2 leaderboards for core and sup, so its going to be 2 medal for sup and core. just w8 for it buddy.

                                      Kowareta

                                        I'm already seeing rank 1k immortals pairing with legend smurfs to steal 40 mmr per game from us 4500mmr ancient scrubs

                                        dude idont know what are u talknig about. did u read the blog post? its going to be similar matchup. sure if they smurfing u cant do much, but if they have 6k core player, u have a 6k core player too. thats what they saying.

                                        MuLLiPullervO

                                          Fuck I'm noob but hey I will get easy games 2k both Core and support

                                          pro last hitter

                                            2h queue times incoming x)

                                            mynhauzen

                                              I actually dislike that idea. I liked to not know what role I’ll play in the game. Now I just play one role and it’s boring.

                                              kiM

                                                My percentage is gone as well. I am legend 5 now, before I had 60% on the medal, after the update it's gone lol. I won like 7 games in a row including using double downs and percentage hasn't come back yet :s

                                                147bpm

                                                  It should’ve been this way since 2012 when ranked was released or whenever it was around then, along with making behavior score known to players .

                                                  9 years of the same teams playing against each other at ti, gee I wonder why.

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                                                  Desephviasco

                                                    ^your sentence is equivalent to "9 years of the same teams playing against each other at uefa champion league, gee i wonder why"

                                                    kiM

                                                      Actually the teams playing at TI have changed a quite a bit. Maybe not so much their players, but the teams. New players came to fame as well. It's just a matter on how well you observe it.

                                                      9o_o6

                                                        From what I seen usually there is 1 divine guy in my team and he is in a party with 2 legend 1s. Only the legend 1s play so much better than the divine guy and have so much more impact. Call me crazy but there something fishy going on.

                                                        Kowareta

                                                          ^ party players are mainly trashes, i have ezier lanes in my party games against divines immos compare to my solo 4.2k mmr
                                                          or maybe its because i feel no pressure when i play party.
                                                          either one of this 2

                                                          Desephviasco

                                                            ^or because ur beh score is trash

                                                            Desephviasco

                                                              party player are mainly trashes

                                                              against divine immos

                                                              Before this mmr changes, you need to play solo to get that div immo remember

                                                              Kowareta

                                                                ^ what do u even mean? i dont get ur point!
                                                                can u explain ?

                                                                MuLLiPullervO

                                                                  ^She tried to tell u that now anyone can get to Divine/Immo by playing party!

                                                                  So we will see a lot of divines in future

                                                                  Kowareta

                                                                    i doubt ppl reached divine immo in this short time with party
                                                                    i got 10 mmr for winning 3 divines. its half the amount u get by playing solo

                                                                    MuLLiPullervO

                                                                      So they give less mmr by playing party?

                                                                      Why they won't random TI player for teams too to get it more like solo playing =D

                                                                      LegendaryHD

                                                                        See even on internet playing with friends is bad for you.

                                                                        MuLLiPullervO

                                                                          Or bad for my friends to not getting so fast more mmr

                                                                          Idc about my mmr really. I lost interest to mmr years ago