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Rad-Blink-AC WK in General Discussion
Cheap Laugh Guy

    WK pos 1 is trending but the builds holy shit. It's mind-boggling as fuck.
    https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/wraith-king/guides
    I don't understand the concept behind it.

    First, Radiance on WK. A hero that doesn't actually scale that well.
    Worse, Blink Dagger right after that. Bought Radiance so he isn't tanky, doesn't have burst damage, his stun is 2 sec.
    AC is the only choice left due to the previous two items, need the armor and attack speed.

    My true question is, how is this build any better than going Armlet, Drums, Deso, Solar Crest, SnY and many other cheaper core items?
    Why would they delay his power spike to late game when everyone will have items to kite the fuck out of WK?

    Feachairu

      radiance is so u can push 3 lanes at once or well basically farm faster

      dagger is so u can become dk and tank shit and insta stun ganks

      ac is good because auras pretty gr8 shit atm and - armor

      MuLLi

        WK is all about skeletons

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          Boom

            Radiance + Reincarnation = raid boss

            Blink Dagger allows wk to blink as soon as reincarnating for escape. It also vastly improves his weak initiation.

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            Bupche

              Wk is unplayable withour Radiance
              I can see skipping Radiance vs AM sometimes and going DPS only but Radi is a must have item

              Feachairu

                he isnt lifestealer so he needs dagger to actually fucking hit people i think lmao

                '96 Neve Campbell

                  Radiance is good on any hero that hangs around in a team fight without dying for a lengthy time. It isnt so much a scaling item as it an item which disrupts the other team for a lengthy duration in a team fight. Wraith King is a naturally hard to kill hero and the effects of radiance would effect a team fight for a long time. Honestly I think building radiance on heros like Puck, Terrorblade and Phantom Lancer are also valid for the same reason as it is on Wraith King.

                  varjager

                    Radiance on puck tb and pl, i cant really see how the heroes benefit from radiance when puck needs mobility and the other two needs stats.

                    Spectre get a huge power spike with radiance in both damage and farming ability the same goes for ls, wk farm fast now with the skeletons so its more about how radiance work with his ulti.

                    Dont forget the 17% miss chance, dota and 17% isnt always "17%" (greater bash)

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                    '96 Neve Campbell

                      Puck is actually a very underrated Radiance carrier. If you build it after blink and force staff you will be very illusive and u can sustain during teamfights. Most of Puck’s damage actually comes from right click instead of spells and Radiance helps with your damage whilst making you slightly tankier and synergising well with the rapid fire at level 25.

                      Radiance on terrorblade is very situational and should only really be picked up if the other team has physical damage resistance but its a valid item that also helps you split push with your illusions. Radiance on phantom lancer has always been solid, used to be very meta infact but I see it built less nowadays.

                      varjager

                        Wasnt it the same time when people used to build radiance on weaver? Maybe the community grown wiser.

                        arekeeee

                          good old dota 1 where you rush radi on weaver and pl...

                          Jacked

                            Come on bruh. Radiance is actually such a good item. It gives mid game wk a huge ass power spike around 20 min. No other heroes benefit from rad like tanky str melee cores such as life stealer and wk. you need blink because of mobility obviously. Blink stun with rad, right clicks, and skeletons, supports are usually dead. This is before 30 mins.

                            He is tanky and it makes him even more tanky because of the miss. He runs around in fights doing huge aoe because he has 2 lives. And because str melee hero’s are usually kited. It’s the anti kite item.

                            Going armlet deso is like going all-in on early game wk and betting on being able to right click people after your stun duration. I don’t see that happening unless you’re snowballing really hard.

                            Armlets actually alright because it makes you tanky. But come on that’s like an early game item. How does it scale? wtf does deso do? Doesn’t help your skill set at all. You’re still squishy af with this build.

                            Sounds worse than radiance which actually scales a lot better because it helps you keep up in farm. Again AC is 10 times better on wk because you don’t have Attack speed. Please don’t fuckingf. Buy deso on wk anymore thanks.

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                            Jacked

                              Wk actually such a strong late game hero. You actually need items like bkb so going all those shitty small items just delays power spike even more

                              i have 5 reports to use

                                indeed radiance is core on puck.

                                basically u buy radiance on wk because ur not gonna get to hit people and it helps u farm abit, dagger next so u can initiate and hit someone and also run after respawning, some people go mjolnir just for the att speed and active for extra aoe damage when people hit u then u have a choice of an armor item blademail/armlet/assault which u can buy at any stage.

                                and then theres the aghs trick when u have 40 cd sec ult. basically u should try to die <7 seconds before it goes off cd so u get to be a ghost for 7 second. then even if they manage to kill u get to be a ghost again for another 7 seconds, not to mention your allies get ghost mode too. its just an alternative to a bkb.

                                this build is really hard to play against btw

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                                Bupche

                                  @John WK is kitted extremely easily,he ain't worth shit late game.
                                  His power spike is radiance,you need to capitalize on it,because other cores fuck him easily after that.

                                  CUTNPASTE

                                    Radi has been core on pos 1 WK for about 1000 years. If you buy armlet they walk away slowly and you do 0 damage. By going radi+blink you are a threat even walking around slowly because you disrupt all blinks, do aoe damage and threaten blink+popping supports or squishy cores.

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                                    A

                                      so wk viable again ? damn i used to get 8 winstreak as wk in ranked game. miss those days.

                                      Cheap Laugh Guy

                                        I get it now
                                        Thank you all

                                        YarCteR⚜

                                          WK has been played radiance ever since EvilArthas/Hailrake started with the Blademail/Radiance/Blink & hit 7k with it -- just like how everyone started playing Spectre after Badman reached 8k with it.

                                          Jacked

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                                            Yeah. True. I’m pretty sure wk is extremely hard to play in immortal late game when everyone has defensive items and kites you to hell and you don’t have much to offer to team except maybe if you get aghs or just spam skeletons to take towers. But he’s still great late game hero in 99% of dota games (not immortal)

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                                            Feachairu

                                              @turtle
                                              but ice shot u down with that idea

                                              i have 5 reports to use

                                                i played longer and studied dota more than u maybe u should respect that?

                                                Celine

                                                  o people finally thinking wk rad is viable

                                                  smurfs = no balls

                                                    wk blink/midas -> radi -> bm/ac offlane is my jam

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                                                    Jacked

                                                      Turtles ideas are not to be messed with. He told me to build forcestaff first on tidehuntet no blink and we won.