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General DiscussionThoughts on 7.21 b

Thoughts on 7.21 b in General Discussion
kuci

    Midas 10% gold reduction, still worth it?
    Lifestealer stat change heavy nerf or?

    Marko Bulat

      Minor tweaks nothing really changed, they just shifted things from "stupidly broken" to "situationaly broken if you dont have right answer for it"

      CUTNPASTE

        I think lifestealer is fine, the changes didn't affect the core reason he is strong, his ridiculous laning that can't really be pressured without picking stuff like weaver/wr offlane.

        mute all

          still good item..absolutely worth..

          Kotato

            no buff for ma boy

            JDF8

              they just buffed lycan when he was already really good. i think ursa got hit way harder than ls, 2 armor is a big deal for that hero

              big buff for storm's laning too although i'm not sure how much it will matter

              looking forward to very bad carry players buying midas now since they love to lag one patch behind and have been buying bf all week

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              Xin disciple

                Weaver buff maybe is suffient enough to enable him in the meta

                Geckolimus

                  Core CM next meta! Calling it first!

                  Regards
                  Gecko

                  Totentanz to The King: M ...

                    w/e ursa still has 6 armor, more than enough

                    Kotato

                      looking forward to very bad carry players buying midas now since they love to lag one patch behind and have been buying bf all week

                      are you seriously thinking that midas gets worse when 20 gold will be missing from its active? They buy it for exp really

                      Cheap Laugh Guy

                        And the attack speed too

                        Marko Bulat

                          180 gold is still better than 0 gold it will help slow str farmers hit their item timings since neither maelstrom nor BF suits them, and them chilling 15 minutes with 3,8k gold waiting for that raidiance is just ridiculous in this meta and very punishable.

                          SirIronSights

                            Midas is barely worth it, unless you a fat ogre player.
                            Still would rather have a maelstrom on a carry

                            Marko Bulat

                              ^You do realize theres like handful of heroes with decent BAT that can justify maelstrom right? Imagine Ursa with fucking maelstorm, his as is dogshit outside of swipes, but midas fixes it and makes him very good! Price is the same you just get more value with ursa midas than ursa maelstorm.

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                              Kotato

                                ^why u talk to trolls? lol man, save your time

                                kuci

                                  I cant win without my Lifestealer help

                                  Tribo

                                    T'ekaluuk try ck or jug)

                                    WarmDiarrhea

                                      PL WAY TOO OP NOW

                                      Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                                        Bring back willow meta ty, she is my free mmr hero :(

                                        Ear of Skadi

                                          6 months left for storm to be buffed enough to be competitive and even dominate at TI. happens every year.
                                          who else is going to get buffed all the way to TI?

                                          Xin disciple

                                            ^ember,if I am not wrong he has been buffed in every patch since 7.19 until now except 7.21b

                                            Nemesis

                                              I think maybe Warlock/SF maybe even QoP will get continuous small buffs up until TI. There are certain heroes that pop back up in the meta every TI and they always seem to be the popular or flashy heroes.

                                              MysteriousMeow

                                                Sven carry is dead

                                                A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘

                                                  Miranda will be back.

                                                  Murranji

                                                    He accidentally forgot to include the buff to Bloodseeker that is needed to make the hero pickable. Oopsy.

                                                    Oh well there could be one more patch prior to TI. Or maybe next year after that, or 2021.

                                                    Meanwhile storm spirit is being buffed back into viability. Because there is nothing less fun than playing a game where a storm spirit snowballs out of control and you literally can't show in a fucking lane without him zipping on you from half way across the map to kill you. Smfh.

                                                    DSP

                                                      They nerfed Tiny even more...

                                                      JDF8

                                                        looking forward to very bad carry players buying midas now since they love to lag one patch behind and have been buying bf all week

                                                        it's just science

                                                        Marko Bulat

                                                          They nerfed Tiny even more...

                                                          Yeah he was very weak and underrated, such undeserved nerf

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                                                          DSP

                                                            tiny winrate in 7.21 : 47%
                                                            tiny winrate in 7.21b : 45%

                                                            it was a good idea to nerf him

                                                            AngetriS

                                                              What do you guys think about spectre, is she back in the game?

                                                              Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                                                                Tiny is way too good at laning, thats why icefrog nerfed him(probably)

                                                                Fuka suginai o nīchan

                                                                  IMO Spec is playable right now.
                                                                  GO BF First. I think its very strong on her.