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General DiscussionShould I start to play WK as everyone else does?

Should I start to play WK as everyone else does? in General Discussion
MuLLiPullervO

    I have lately run into people crying I'm BOT when playing WK.

    So should I start to play like everyone else and MAYBE lose some more games? I have lately focused on pushing and avoided fighting

    parmaviolets

      Bot is subjective... you cant say ppl complain that u are bot as if the bot lane means the same thing every game.

      Fuka suginai o nīchan

        If oyu wanna carry games right now play CK first or 2nd item Midas pos1 -3

        MuLLiPullervO

          Just played BOT game and noticed how they move faster to defend and push than humans so maybe being BOT means i'm faster than human can be =D

          parmaviolets

            Whatever you say buddy

            Fuka suginai o nīchan

              Go wk pos3 skelleton push build

              Kowareta

                if u want to push, u will pick pusher hero, not a hero u go "no mana cost" talent most of the times instead of the other shit :)
                stop pretending sir, wk is not in meta or a pusher :)
                only thing wk has is option to rage quit lane and go afk jungle for whole game, thats why he is popular in low mmr brackets !

                Kotato

                  op, can i add you to friends? You wk game is very stronk!

                  One True Merchant

                    You faithfully buy Radiance almost every game though LUL

                    MuLLiPullervO

                      @kotato Yeah Kotato u can do it

                      MuLLiPullervO

                        @Kowareta I have no problems to push as WK. In average I get over 10k structure damage

                        Goku Black

                          WK is a strong pusher but he is an even stronger teamfighter. Your stun, lifesteal aura and slow during ulti respawn could all be game changers. I dont think your teammates really care that you buy BoT's, they are probably just mad you are not team fighting when you need to be. If you want to be an exclusive split pusher, pick a better one like prophet.

                          MuLLiPullervO

                            @Goku Black Yeah first I tried Nature but after all tower armor changes etc I founded Nature pretty useless. Nature doesn't just have enough damage and feeding treants is really game losing thing but feeding skeletons doesn't matter because lower bounty

                            MuLLiPullervO

                              @Kotato

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                              Kowareta

                                wk is strong , thats why nobody picks it in high mmr games, omega lul!

                                MuLLiPullervO

                                  WK is weak and need a lot training to work but if u try u can learn anything

                                  edit. after nerf to aura and stun WK is pretty weak @lane

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                                  Kowareta

                                    yes , but why would i?
                                    if u dont wanna play in lane, and wanna play in jungles, why would u play dota 2? play warcraft then, lots of amazing creeps there to beat them up!

                                    Goku Black

                                      @MullipullervO build Desolator and Assault Cuirass and you will kill buildings no problem. NP has insanely good stat growth per level, so you can afford to build these items without suffering too much for attack speed/mana pool.

                                      MuLLiPullervO

                                        ^still feeding treants might lose the game while feeding Skeletons means nothing

                                        MuLLiPullervO

                                          @Kowareta all lanes goes for me as WK and all positions but not mid yet

                                          Playing jungle is just for case when winning game needs it

                                          I <3 SEA Crusaders

                                            @Goku Black Yeah first I tried Nature but after all tower armor changes etc I founded Nature pretty useless. Nature doesn't just have enough damage and feeding treants is really game losing thing

                                            Yes, Nature's Prophet is very useless.

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                                            MuLLiPullervO

                                              Nice nature =D

                                              edit. but did u split push with it

                                              someone said u need AC+deso to do it

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                                              I Like Lagsagna

                                                Nature's Prophet is the hero with the highest atribute gain per level of all heroes, and i seen him played in every role in professional Dota, his treants give little gold/exp and are hard to kill, just don't blindlessly send them down a lane, they can also kill a neutral camp or scout areas where you want vision, all of his abilities bring utility to the team. Watching replays from Notail or high level offlane NP players helps a lot, the creativity this people have with his abilities is just beatiful to watch, give him a try.

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                                                MuLLiPullervO

                                                  Yeah around 100 games done as nature and its not bad in every game but WK just have over 2 times better force to push

                                                  Ofc if I would spam nature some more games it might start to work better bec im bit noob nature

                                                  déjà vu

                                                    bro, can you tell me your strat on WK? i want to try. pls :)

                                                    MuLLiPullervO

                                                      Just push with Skeletons and don't appear yourself on minimap while doing it. It needs some training to know when skeletons go where and still not showing your self to enemy

                                                      Another thing is farming efficiently in early game. U need to be able to give right vision to skeletons to not ruin MID equilibrium if u doesn't want to commit push there

                                                      If u train some 100 games u will get it going

                                                      apotheosis

                                                        never take advice from players who dont have an item that you lose on death as their rank

                                                        Kowareta

                                                          If u train some 100 games u will get it going

                                                          100 games practice for a 2 active spell hero, omega lul!

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                                                          One True Merchant

                                                            Is it possible to collect max skeletons every time off cooldown?

                                                            I <3 SEA Crusaders

                                                              Nice nature =D

                                                              edit. but did u split push with it

                                                              someone said u need AC+deso to do it

                                                              No one smart picks NP to 5-man 100% of the game.

                                                              I think AC is a late-game situational pickup. Half the time, you usually have a teammate who would help the team more if they got it instead of you, like a wk, axe, etc. Heroes who need the armour to fight. For attack speed, go Mjolnir or even a moon shard

                                                              I almost never get Deso because i itemise for CC so i am more than just a glass cannon when i join team fights. And if your game sense of when to split push is good, you will almost never need Deso on this hero to take buildings.

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                                                              RosHan Solo

                                                                @ MuLLiPullervO
                                                                Nice to see a fellow WK spammer however i did it when he wasn't anywhere near meta or had skeles (or a sneaky talent for no mana cost of reincarni) and you need to pump that WR up :D.

                                                                I agree with @ One True Merchant as radiance is optional... it depends how good your early game is as deso may be more suited. I was never a fan of armlet on WK and even more so now (niche item for CK / LS imo)

                                                                Finally what really confuses me - out of your recent games, i do not see a single BKB? Regardless of build, blink+BKB will always be the must on the hero as he is just too easy to lockdown and kite (although you seem to have good success with him).

                                                                Kotato

                                                                  ^bkb is for pus**sies

                                                                  MuLLiPullervO

                                                                    @One True Merchant

                                                                    yeah ofc it is possible. Early game maybe better to use every time CD is off rather than collecting max skeles

                                                                    MuLLiPullervO

                                                                      Its all about controlling skeletons where people need training. If u go basic WK build BKB+blink and constantly fight rather than push u doesn't need so much training.

                                                                      Topic was about should I go this more fighting (BKB+blink) as WK or just keep winning games by pushing. Winning is nice but listening whining got me wondering should I start to play like all other and risk to lose some more.

                                                                      Eventually this my strat may hit the wall @higher mmr