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General DiscussionWhat is your motivation to climb MMR?

What is your motivation to climb MMR? in General Discussion
culprit

    What is your main motivation to climb and play in MMR? Especially for the lower bracket player like me? I mean, if you are in the high tier I guess yes there are plenty of try hard player who aren't fun at all to play with, but there are big chances for people in those tier to gain higher and higher on MMR.
    But for me, I wish I could be on those tier, but I don't have enough will to grind thousand more MMR, especially with way more toxic people in this tier. Everytime I finish a game (especially after losing), it's kinda demotivated me to click on the find match button.
    The only reason I play this for now is to calibrate my medal, and tbh it's pretty fun knowing there is a short term objective to begin with. But after my medal already been calibrated I got no motivation anymore. Even though in these matches I win 80% of the time, I'm afraid that I will begin to lose and lose and lost all the hard earned MMR.
    Any motivation to continue the journey to get out of this hell? And also do you guys think my performance is quite comparable to continue on a bit higher tier? Sorry for broken grammar, tired as hell because of MMR lul

    Inflation Agent

      because Lord Gaben ban me from quitting dota

      Annie-Mal

        You have sub 50% winrate on most of your most played heros. Start looking at how you should i prøve your game instead of blaming your team.

        SirIronSights

          my life is a endless spiral of death and suffering, and only when i win in dota i feel like my life has any worth, its like cocaïne. nice at first, but after a while you just realise that your life is shit. im currently in his basement, hes holding me a gun point. unless i tell you how good dotaplus is he will kill me. help me.
          end my suffering

          inx4c

            to be higher than rab8

            Prove Everyone Wrong

              I only have one advice: BE OPTIMISTIC AND THINK POSITIVE :)
              Be Optimistic and nothing will be impossible :)

              culprit

                You have sub 50% winrate on most of your most played heros. Start looking at how you should i prøve your game instead of blaming your team.

                yes I do not justify my skill nor blame my teammates here, but I rather to ask any motivation to keep playing while building a better skill and understanding about this game at the same time. That's the case of why I made this topic.

                kowareta

                  my motivation, not playing with a guy who miss stun with lion! target spell btw !!!

                  ywn

                    Any motivation to continue the journey to get out of this hell?

                    imagine thinking theres a way out

                    kowareta

                      You have sub 50% winrate on most of your most played heros. Start looking at how you should i prøve your game instead of blaming your team.

                      i have +50% on my all most played heros , most of them +60% , considering i played at least 10 games to learn them, its looking good winrates, yes? but i cant raise mmr :)))) , can i blame teammates and system now? sir?

                      Jack__Attack

                        If you dont target lion stun you can cast it from farther away though. SAFETY FIRST!

                        ROYQT

                          All I want to achieve in DOTA (atleast for now) is to be 6.5k MMR , I just like the number and thats my only motivation.

                          MAGNUM FORCE REPULSE

                            Stay optimistic at all times, don’t stress about things you can’t control. Just as long as you are playing your best that’s all that matters bc after all if you do your best in dota life will be very easy

                            Hatrið mun sigra

                              Stubborness, I wanted to get to 5k since I started playing Dota and one day I will. Also being a depressed, escapist failure makes you project all the concrete things you are afraid to achieve irl onto a mere game.

                              MAGNUM FORCE REPULSE

                                You’re on the path to high tier it seems your play is really good but you’re just afraid of losing. Don’t be afraid my friend. This is your time to shine.

                                That is all from therapist Mac A

                                culprit

                                  Stay optimistic at all times, don’t stress about things you can’t control. Just as long as you are playing your best that’s all that matters bc after all if you do your best in dota life will be very easy

                                  You’re on the path to high tier it seems your play is really good but you’re just afraid of losing. Don’t be afraid my friend. This is your time to shine.

                                  That is all from therapist Mac A

                                  wow what a strangely nice comment coming from a stranger from the internet.. thanks man, this definitely pumps me up lol

                                  kowareta

                                    I'm afraid that I will begin to lose and lose and lost all the hard earned MMR.

                                    u will, no doubt!!! this is how system works, if u have good winrate in ur recent games , system give u teammates with low winrate to make it balance, 50-50 chance for both team!!! if u feel this , u must play normal or turbo to drop ur winrate!

                                    Marko Bulat

                                      To mock and call lower people than me trash. Tilts them so much and gives me endless joy and warmth around my heart.

                                      u will, no doubt!!! this is how system works, if u have good winrate in ur recent games , system give u teammates with low winrate to make it balance, 50-50 chance for both team!!! if u feel this , u must play normal or turbo to drop ur winrate!

                                      When i was young and naive i thought this is utter bullshit, but then i started thinking, if there is no 50/50 system in dota then good players would have 100% winrate and bad players 100% lose rate, so they would quitplaying this way, even if you are utter dogshit system will put couple of good players in your team and they will carry you and you will think you are good because you have some wins and wont quit the game. It all make sense to me now, i see what you did there Gaben you fat piece of shit!

                                      Whenever i have win streak and green page i am no longer happy, im just thinking "man im gonna pay for this, its gonna cost me"

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                                      Jack__Attack

                                        Lololol marko so true. I was having some severe red days before calibration. Calibration comes and all I see is green. This is gonna hurt so bad when it flip flops again.

                                        culprit

                                          lol might be true, same case I also got full of reds day before the calibrating, now it's green, but I guess it wont be long

                                          '96 Neve Campbell

                                            Cause everyone told me im shit and I belong in the 1k bracket and I have a strong motivation to surprise people :3

                                            kowareta

                                              its really hard to act rational in these situations, u play a hero like a god among ur stupid bracket, u gain 200-300 mmr, u feel good about urself , then u got balanced with teammates, 2 jungler, solo offlane and ur trilane feed too,stupid pudge pickers, etc... and thats make u angry
                                              u lose 100-200 mmr and behaviour score aswell!!!

                                              kowareta

                                                Cause everyone told me im shit and I belong in the 1k bracket and I have a strong motivation to surprise people :3

                                                i think its supposed to be u feel good about sth not others feel good about u!

                                                Hatrið mun sigra

                                                  Was there ever any doubt about the fact that the system does everything to keep you on a 50% winrate? O.o
                                                  It's logical, it was even mentioned in a YT video guide made by Dota Alchemy and they're not exactly 2k dunning krueger cases, they're 6-7k chill guys that make Dota guides and play with pros. It works just like online poker. No one wants to lose players/customers, therefore money, by making them leave 'cause of frustration, hopelessness and most importantly boredom.

                                                  '96 Neve Campbell

                                                    i think its supposed to be u feel good about sth not others feel good about u!
                                                    Nothing makes me feel better than surprising people who doubted me!

                                                    ^ enforced 50% winrate is only true if you are playing people at a similar skill level... If you are superior to your bracket or inferior you are naturally going to have long win/loss streaks

                                                    Marko Bulat

                                                      Cause everyone told me im shit and I belong in the 1k bracket and I have a strong motivation to surprise people :3

                                                      Shit motivation, at the end of the day MMR you have is yours, so even if you succeed or not, nobody really gives a shit, i doubt there is one person here is so idle that he has a thought "Hey what is that guy parmaviolets doing"

                                                      Nobody cares, we come here for cheap banther and to kill some time, when we fulfil that purpse we continue with our lives.

                                                      '96 Neve Campbell

                                                        Who said anything about me trying to please people on this forum in particular >.>

                                                        Väinämöinen

                                                          owning nubs

                                                          cartel

                                                            im only want climb to be higher than vertox and parma that's it
                                                            on a serious note
                                                            years ago i only wanted to climb so i might get into a pub with sing sing or bulldog
                                                            now that theyre immortals and i keep running into walls at 4k
                                                            i don't care about climbing no more i just wanna smurf and chill

                                                            Marko Bulat

                                                              Speaking of smurfs, i just did second recalibration game on my main i got matched with all ancient 7 nerds and 1 divine 1, i was divine 5? WTF? I didnt calibrated smurfs to get good karma for recalibration why is this hapening? Am i dead?

                                                              https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4393833887

                                                              Cptn.Canuck

                                                                The trench never ends. You're still going to get ragers, feeders, and griefers all the way up the ladder.

                                                                You're fooling yourself if you think your bracket is any more or less toxic than anywhere else on the ladder, and that climbing MMR will suddenly make dota a pleasant place where everyone wants to hold hands while they win.

                                                                Your motivation to grind should be to get better. I think at some level we all play dota because it's one of the hardest games in existence and we enjoy the challenge of getting better at something with almost no upward limit for progression.

                                                                If grinding MMR and gaining Dota skill isn't fun or rewarding in and of itself, then you shouldn't be laddering. If you want to play Dota at all at that point, you should play turbos, party games, or custom games. Those things are fun, relaxing, and good ways to kill time, but MMR itself only matters as bragging rights, or as a qualification for competitive play. If you have no interest in those things, then stick to more casual play. You'll have a better time and your sanity will thank you.

                                                                cartel

                                                                  the end is near
                                                                  burgmangler legend
                                                                  marko bulat ancient 7
                                                                  slq archon
                                                                  what has this world come to

                                                                  Lisa

                                                                    None, this game is shit and a waste of time.

                                                                    low prio master

                                                                      Lord of Gaben : Icefrog

                                                                      In cinemas from April 2019

                                                                      JDF8

                                                                        winning > > > losing

                                                                        Crimson Sky

                                                                          I guess to prove to myself I'm not a miserable failure at this game. To have a front page with all my best heroes with high % win rates. To try and emulate how the streamers and pros play, they make it look so easy so how hard can it be right?

                                                                          Feachairu

                                                                            marko is a divine 2 smurf or something i forgot,its normal he got ancinet 7 lol

                                                                            reeeeeee

                                                                              I am on holiday and got nothing better to do.

                                                                              Von Darkmoor

                                                                                Nothing i mostly play to troll and piss losers off.

                                                                                Similar to what they do to me but unintentionally 👌👌

                                                                                Imo going "Ranked, EU West" and troll is one of the funniest things you can do, their so got damn salty and mad 😂

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                                                                                Tommy Everlong

                                                                                  My reassurance to myself that I didn't waste my 10 years of playing this game and it led me to "think" that I did my best and I did become pro since I got a good rank. But those are the lies I feed myself lol

                                                                                  Feachairu

                                                                                    be top 1 ofc

                                                                                    the better spidey

                                                                                      1) To have better games. I enjoy playing Dota and trust me 5k games are sooo much more enjoyable than sub-4k.

                                                                                      2) To prove to myself that I’m “worthy” of playing this game. I’ve played 3000 dota games so far over the course of 7 years and while that isn’t a ridiculous amount it’s still a lot of time. I’d embarrass myself if I was still a 3k shitter after all that.

                                                                                      ETd

                                                                                        My motivations:
                                                                                        Have fun
                                                                                        Increase in skill and knowledge in this game
                                                                                        Train to be good enough to win tournaments(even small locals)

                                                                                        JDF8

                                                                                          losing is very not fun in many games of dota 2