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General DiscussionAM Mid Trend, who started it?

AM Mid Trend, who started it? in General Discussion
Jordan

    So I am experiencing AM mid every game now. It's as effective as Invoker Mid, if the player is good he wins if bad he loses. I see not much of a benefit vs other good mid heroes. Who started this? I know some Pro or streamer must have playing this again so everyone followed now.

    Clippy

      I saw Miracle do it back when he was on the kick of being so confident that he literally just played everything mid but idk if it's an actual trend or you're just unlucky.

      Sygma zxc ghoul 2y.o dead...

        ^+999

        It's as effective as Invoker Mid

        Wrong. The Magina mid pick is situationally good depending on the draft, the greediness of the picks and how side laning phase goes.
        Invoker provides control, global pure dmgs nuke (sunstrike), etc... What does magina provide in terms of control and ganking cap before getting online (battle fury magina doesn't mean online btw) ?

        Magina is a very good draft against storm or tinker mid. They'll end up at a moment doing the mistake of being low mana and you'll be able to kill them with ulti. Even if you lost midlane, you'll be able to interrupt their snowballing with your ultimate.

        Other than that, you'll need to ensure your team has enough control as Magina doesn't provide hard CC, doesn't have very greedy picks and doesn't get rolled over in lanes into recovery (as you might end up emptying the recovery resources from your team).

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          What? How is AM good be Tinker? (Esp. in lane). Tinker is one of the best heroes to deal with lategame AM.

          Sygma zxc ghoul 2y.o dead...

            ^As I said, "Even if you lose midlane" the tinker will do the mistake of spending all his mana while farming jungle/pushing a lane/teamfight and will be OSable with an mana void.
            I admit it doesn't apply in your skill bracket as tinkers will be awared of not spending most of their mana in marches.

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            Väinämöinen

              people calling AM magina are monkeys

              Player 281121816

                More like “vagina”

                Androgynous

                  "im a special snowflake i played dota 1"

                  Player 106173996

                    Can stomp some games.

                    Shou

                      i think u can only pick am mid into heroes like qop where u can lvl 1 counter spell and they can literally never dagger you. same with medusa, u completely counter that hero mid, they cant ever use mystic snake on u.

                      i cant think of any other hero u wud beat mid, maybe dazzle by reflecting poison touch?

                      Lazer

                        Rubick Fanboy, the idea with Medusa is that you don't directly target the enemy hero. You target creeps as they go for cs because it will do much more damage. If used in this way, they Mystic Snake will not be reflected by AM's counterspell because it was not targeted at him.

                        Shou

                          even if snake bounces off of creeps first it still reflects u know

                          do ur research :)

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                          Yami Yugi

                            ubica

                              won against pugna just recently but tbh i still suffered mid and didnt reflect anything he just had 1800 mana and i mana voided him in fight

                              Sygma zxc ghoul 2y.o dead...

                                am mid into heroes like qop

                                Don't. Just don't. It's a gamble and you will rely on your team to reach your manta (turning point).

                                Why ?
                                - Because decent QoPs players will max E other Q (denied, countered by wand + regen, no flash farm) in this matchup.
                                - Because QoP ulti does pure damages and she will OS you lvl 6
                                - Because QoP will punish all of your last hits with scream
                                - Because QoP will gank and SMASH your sidelanes while you farm your tr0l0l_mid_battlefury_see_you_minute_50_6_slotted
                                - Because QoP will get this cheesy orchid before your manta

                                TLDR : If you somehow reach the tide turn with manta it's a good draft but a decent QoP will give early -> early-midgame to her team.

                                Shou

                                  im not saying its good just that its pickable

                                  anyway its an even lane imo, u can blink on her and burn her mana, she cant sustain scream indefinitely

                                  Khéops-

                                    AM mid stomps Zeus/Tinker/Lion pretty much anything that relies on single target spells. Once again the AM needs to be damn good.

                                    Androgynous

                                      what the fuck is "OS"