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Not necessarily dota related, but aren't people who truly believe in astrology mentally deficient? in General Discussion
Riguma Borusu

    Last game I played there was a girl (!) that started raging on the mic after getting mid "stolen" (despite her picking a mid hero AFTER we already had mid, she believes that because she clicked faster she's entitled to it).

    I tried to calm her down and wrote "calm your tits". First she called me a misogynist prick (although I'd say the same thing to a male person as well) then she proceeded to tell me shit about retrograde planets and how I must be angry because I must be a certain sign or something. I told her all of that hogwash is retarded and that I just want her to play the game and stop raging at which point she replied I must be a Sagittarius because that's how one would act. The loss of that game could not trigger me even remotely as much as the fact that there are real, breathing (unfortunately) people spewing this nonsense.

    I would hope that this was merely trolling, but I know quite a number of crazy whamen (which I always make sure to avoid at any occasion) who swear by astrology. I swear their IQs are in the 60-80 range.

    spilled

      it's hard to judge somebody's intellect based on the conditions of their upbringing
      i am a physicist, but i come from a long line of romanian heritage rife with superstition
      there are relatives who are incredibly intelligent but still have to socially occupy that gypsy kind of mentality and do buy into it

      their life and the continuity of their business and their social integrity doesn't come into contact with astrophysics or astronomy, so there's no real impetus to even question astrology
      moreover, the fact that astrology is prevalent on that social level makes it an important networking factor and maintaining relationships and so forth

      anyway, i'm just saying not to judge too harshly the people who haven't had the same education you have, or who have confronted the same information you have, especially when it's rooted so deeply in cultural heritage that you cannot escape during your formative development years

      there are probably things in this world that you don't even realize you don't understand, that someone else might feel just as triggered by

      Tribo

        You should have told her that dotes is not a game for grills.

        I met one while I was playing on my smurf (D-F behaviour score) she kept screaming on her mic saying random bullshit bout me feeding mid as visage (intentionally because I enjoyed listening to her bullshit lmao) and blaming "males" as the ones who ruin her game play (prolly real life issues with that). She was UBER toxic and tilted. At the end we won but she kept talking random shit.

        Moral of the story?
        Girls retarded consider kys y'all.

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          well, i am a sagittarius apparently and i would act the same way so maybe she is right :thinking:

          DC.MASON

            i'm a sagittarius as well and your reaction to this situation is appealing to me as well

            but aren't people who truly believe in astrology mentally deficient

            more like majority of women is mentally deficient
            especially those playing dota

            cartel

              play dota = -30 iq points
              believe in astrology = -50 iq points
              be wemen = -40 iq points
              this m'lady has successfully reduced her iq by a whooping 120 points with these three simple steps

              Tribo

                ^this is the only time I agree with you, sir.

                cartel

                  ^you always agree with me sir, you just never admit it
                  p.s. kys

                  Tribo

                    consider it ty

                    cartel

                      your welcome

                      Celine

                        triboob

                        Hatrið mun sigra

                          I believe in astrology too and actually study it. Imo the main problem with astrology is its reputation 'cause of the way it's presented to the audience. "Do you wanna know if John is the right person for you? Insert your birth dates here and find out what the stars say!!1". The subject has been dumbed down so much to appeal the public it's ridiculous. In reality its origins date back (is this the right word?) to thousands of years and what lies behind it is much more complex. A totally rational and logical person wouldn't reconsider their opinion anyway, but a spiritual person should definitely inform themselves as it's very interesting. 127 IQ btw

                          So many chauvinist dogs here btw, not that I'm surprised

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                          cartel

                            ^you could've been a 207 iq god but you decided to study astrology and play dota
                            smh

                            Hatrið mun sigra

                              ^haha all went wrong in my life

                              cartel

                                everything is fixable
                                you can still be the first 9k mmr player that fought through shadowpool by playing on days that astrology says will be good days for your astrological sign

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                                lm ao

                                  It's not about people believing in astrology it's about women just being themselves
                                  Unable to handle banter in 2018 when gender equality is supposed to be a thing lmoa

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                                  Riguma Borusu

                                    I believe in astrology too and actually study it.

                                    Well, there are people who study fiction but don't believe in it, what makes you believe in it?

                                    Imo the main problem with astrology is its reputation 'cause of the way it's presented to the audience.

                                    The main problem with astrology is that it has literally nothing to do with reality - it's a flawed belief system based on flawed ideas of how the world operates, designed to appeal to people with low confidence, integrity and understanding of how the world operates.

                                    "Do you wanna know if John is the right person for you? Insert your birth dates here and find out what the stars say!!1". The subject has been dumbed down so much to appeal the public it's ridiculous.

                                    It was dumbed down past its general dumbness? That's like saying adding raisins to a pile of dung makes it taste worse. It's probably correct, but irrelevant at that point.

                                    In reality its origins date back (is this the right word?) to thousands of years and what lies behind it is much more complex.

                                    Well, if you want to talk about history of astrology, it really boils down to people making shit up because they had no clue how anything works. That's still true today. Nothing has changed or developed, really, because the basics of astrology are still the same. Connecting unrelated factors together for no reason aside from "well someone said so so it must be true".

                                    A totally rational and logical person wouldn't reconsider their opinion anyway

                                    No, they would, provided there's actual evidence to back up the claims of astrology. If it's true, it'd actually be possible to create testable hypotheses and then prove correlations between what is true and what astrology claims. Yet, this was never done, because astrology is not rooted in reality. It's fiction.

                                    but a spiritual person should definitely inform themselves as it's very interesting.

                                    Why not also invest in 3-4 religions while you're at it? They hold about as much merit as astrology does. Also, why call yourself a spiritual person? Because it's way easier than learning how things actually work and removing the blindfold from your eyes?

                                    127 IQ btw

                                    That's actually good to know. The correlation value between IQ and belief in astrology just went down in my small sample size test. So my next guess is that people need to be crazy or emotionally vulnerable instead. Considering your previous postings about the bracket and your teammates and in general raging at other people, I'd think you're a very emotionally unstable person, hence why something of "spiritual" nature might appeal to you. I could be wrong. This is not a dig at you, though, just an observation. I had the same problem you have (with raging and getting really upset at dota) a long time ago.

                                    So many chauvinist dogs here btw, not that I'm surprised

                                    When it comes to girl gamers, though, hate towards the ones I described is mostly justified. Bullying girls for no reason, though, is never justified. The ones who don't act like divas and just play the game more often than not just leave none the wiser - and those that try to use their vagina to argue and scream "discrimination! sexism!" are pushed aside as lowlifes and not worthy of attention, despite still getting it because they have a vagina and a lot of gamers are sexually depraved. Also my post is directed at women because I haven't yet met a single male person to start spewing this astrology nonsense in this fashion - extremely defensive, aggressive, entitled and "know it all" while also screaming "discrimination!111" and NOT PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME. A lot of the time, however, men are simply treating women the same way they treat males. But instead of saying "yo you fat retard" they will say "fucking whemen". They simply shift the focus of insults to the gender because it's actually way more effective. It's not discriminatory - it's actually quite the opposite. Women can't both ask to be treated the same and then cry when they get the same (offensive) treatment. Men treat other men poorly, and asking for special treatment would mean sexism in other direction.

                                    it's hard to judge somebody's intellect based on the conditions of their upbringing
                                    i am a physicist, but i come from a long line of romanian heritage rife with superstition
                                    there are relatives who are incredibly intelligent but still have to socially occupy that gypsy kind of mentality and do buy into it

                                    their life and the continuity of their business and their social integrity doesn't come into contact with astrophysics or astronomy, so there's no real impetus to even question astrology
                                    moreover, the fact that astrology is prevalent on that social level makes it an important networking factor and maintaining relationships and so forth

                                    anyway, i'm just saying not to judge too harshly the people who haven't had the same education you have, or who have confronted the same information you have, especially when it's rooted so deeply in cultural heritage that you cannot escape during your formative development years

                                    I guess you're right to some degree. People having insane ideas about life that are being pressured unto them might as well have them override their rational thinking facilities. Again, possibly those that are more emotionally vulnerable and unstable might find solace in ideas like astrology or religion. I actually know some religious people that are rather intelligent but they also manage to believe the earth is 6000 years old. It's really a disconnect from their supposed intellect, but they can certainly hold their ground otherwise.


                                    there are probably things in this world that you don't even realize you don't understand, that someone else might feel just as triggered by

                                    Well, here's the difference, I will always consider viewpoints alternative to mine. But if I see they stand on such thin ground you could call none of it evidence or connected to reality of any sort, I am just dumbstruck.

                                    I was proven wrong before, as was everyone, and I will continue to be proven wrong about my ideas of how the world operates (and with scientific advances that's a great thing!) but if an idea I hold is based on no research whatsoever and just a hunch, then I'll be very glad to disregard it in order to have a better understanding of the world. I can't say I have no emotional investment in some ideas I have about the world, but likewise, I am willing to sacrifice my beliefs if they're ultimately proven to be incorrect. As harsh as it is, it's part of growing up.

                                    For example, I believed veganism was stupid and useless as an idea because we still had to get the food somehow. Then I read quite a number of studies, and it turns out that we really are making things worse by producing meat in the amounts that we do it. The production chain geared towards meat actually does increase the greenhouse gas output by quite a margin and it can't just be tossed aside. Eating plants instead of eating meat does cause less pollution per person, and it's an observable fact at this point. I am still not vegan even though I know this, I don't exactly care about "ethical" reasons for veganism, but I can agree that meat production makes things worse.

                                    I am willing to learn and not just shoot ideas down because I don't like them. But when somebody claims astrology must be true and they are a spiritual person and they explain it in such a dumb fashion, which makes no correlation with reality... I just immediately discard it.

                                    Back when I was still studying for my degrees, my professors would just straight up throw away my ideas if my research was absolutely flawed. And they were right. Some of it required some corrections, but a lot of it was just straight up based on no sensible premises whatsoever, and committed multiple sins of research. Through being criticized, I learned how to do better research. So when approached by people who "just know it", I do discard their ideas as less worthy - because they didn't work for them, they merely heard something and believe it might be true for some reason, and are unwilling to change their opinion in face of evidence.

                                    Even I didn't really mean the title of this thread, I was just in denial that an intelligent person can believe this hogwash. But they can. It's actually kind of crazy what kind of contradictory ideas an intelligent person can compromise in their minds.

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                                    Khéops-

                                      Bro, if you're 127 IQ & still not at least Divine/Ancient then you have motor skills issues -- probably fairly heavy ones. Dota2 isn't LoL ; I can predict 2-3 scenarios & usually they happen the way I want them too... It's how I win. Observation - analyzing - acting it out.

                                      I have slow fingers but a fast mind. I have yet to meet someone with actual intelligence who believes in anything spiritual or non fact related, simply because most of our brains aren't wired that way & skepticism is our forte.

                                      Which is why I highly doubt your IQ. I perfectly well understand other comments, like how some smart people with little to no access to fact checking (internet/books etc) might consider and retain in old superstitious traditions, just because it's easier and humans are by definition lazy and use the least required effort to achieve the same result ; especially smarter ones.
                                      Astrology though? Please cut the crap, unless you're studying to prove how ridiculous it is.

                                      My god-father is considered highly in the spiritual community: Mark "Sudama" Kennedy. The man has degrees - UN awards - trained in India and was Princeton educated. He's a holy healer, sought by many people.
                                      His father was in the Iranian hostage crisis - Moorhead Kennedy. From there on he became insane, went to mental institutions and finally became the spiritual, holy healing man he is today.
                                      He's a great guy... Incredible human being.
                                      Everything he talks about is utter bullshit.

                                      Spirituality and religion are things that have never been based on anything factually existant and were devised solely to bend a portion of the population to the whims of an other.

                                      i have 5 reports to use

                                        who picks first deserves the lane

                                        Feachairu

                                          hi i'm a cancer and i would react the same way if i'm in a bad mood,if not i just mute that guy

                                          that being said,is the guess correct lol

                                          Feachairu

                                            as for astrology,how does it work actually

                                            Riguma Borusu

                                              who picks first deserves the lane

                                              Well, obviously.

                                              hi i'm a cancer and i would react the same way if i'm in a bad mood,if not i just mute that guy

                                              that being said,is the guess correct lol

                                              I am also cancer but I'm actually taurus according to horoscope. So her guess wasn't correct, and she probably would be able to answer why her guess was not correct, possibly the chakras were out of alignment.

                                              as for astrology,how does it work actually

                                              Well, it doesn't.

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                                              Feachairu

                                                ever got a friend who loves these,i dont really understand how it relates to mypersonality at all

                                                ah no i'm real cancer on horoscope lol

                                                Pointy Shoes

                                                  @Mayushii desu!
                                                  "I am still not vegan even though I know this, I don't exactly care about "ethical" reasons for veganism, but I can agree that meat production makes things worse."

                                                  You bash someone because of their belief in astrology, yet you don't realize that humanity's bias towards most animals regarding "intelligence" is due to our species getting an advantage just very recently in human evolution. I mean, human "intelligence" is mostly due to our hands, not our brain.

                                                  Our brain is larger than that of a dog, but smaller than that of an elephant. Also, the rescaling factor is not very big. It's not like the scale of the size of the earth compared to the size of the sun.

                                                  Riguma Borusu

                                                    You bash someone because of their belief in astrology, yet you don't realize that humanity's bias towards most animals regarding "intelligence" is due to our species getting an advantage just very recently in human evolution.

                                                    Where did you get this? My bias towards animals is that they're not human. That's how animal species (which we are) work. We cherish our own, and sacrifice others to make sure we persevere. Human compassion towards animals is mainly a recent phenomenon where most people in cities don't have any connection with the wild life so they imagine the world of animals is magical.

                                                    I mean, human "intelligence" is mostly due to our hands, not our brain.

                                                    No, it's both. We've used those hands to develop those brains.

                                                    Our brain is larger than that of a dog, but smaller than that of an elephant.

                                                    This is literally irrelephant.

                                                    Also, the rescaling factor is not very big. It's not like the scale of the size of the earth compared to the size of the sun.

                                                    I would like to know exactly what you're arguing against.

                                                    Feachairu

                                                      when is recently on human evolution?

                                                      Hatrið mun sigra

                                                        God and I thought I write too much lmao.
                                                        OP I understand the skepticism about both astrology and me as a person, as I'm indeed very unstable emotionally. But my retarded personality has nothing to do with it. I believe in it 'cause a lot, A LOT, of specific things and patterns that astrological charts showed actually happened to me or other people. Not small, generalized stuff like "today you might maybe feel a bit tired but also very energetic and will eat at least twice".

                                                        Small example: my dad's chart showed that he would have serious money and work-related problems all his life, basically he will never achieve fulfillment in that area, at all. And he's a workaholic. He tried so hard to succeed and provide for the family, all his life. What happened? Once, the man he had to make a business deal with died suddenly from heart attack, other 2-3 times his business partners stole all the money, another time there was a coup d'etat in the country he was doing business in, so when he was about to get the money the banks refused to give them and the country blocked the boarders. Not to mention my brother, who stole the money of the house my dad had sold and even sued him (the chart also showed that my brother would specifically give problems of this sort). When I was very young, like 1-2, he fell in the hands of loan sharks. Basically an entire life spent witnessing the same patterns. This is just one small example and I'm gonna stop here otherwise I might as well write a book.

                                                        Long story short, the reason I believe in it is experience. I saw so many things happen or reoccur. And, believe it or not, there is a part of me that says "this can't be true" but I can't ignore all the things it got right. Even about people I barely know, so I won't be biased or have an advantage. I read the chart of a guy I had seen once in my life and asked if he had some brother with serious mental issues, like psychosis and whatnot. His brother has schizophrenia. Did the chart of a girl I've met a week ago and told her she's extremely sensitive on a psychic level, very empathetic and able to feel all the energies around her. Told me she sees her dead ancestors from time to time. And no, she has no mental illness. My chart predicted huge career and daily life changes in this period and I just moved from my country to look for jobs I've never done.

                                                        What I found really surprising was the timing of the things that I saw happen. All predictable, all announced.

                                                        By this I in no way mean that our destiny is already written, what I mean is, we are all here for a reason and we all have a path to follow for growing and evolving. The universe just gives the cards, sets the circumstances, but we are the players. Free will is above anything and every intelligent, serious astrologer would say the same thing.

                                                        I call myself spiritual 'cause of my personal idea on how the world works. About its rules, about what's behind the materialistic and the measurable. And it's actually very close to Buddhism, it has nothing to do with superstition and such.

                                                        Generalizing, men are more rational by nature, more logical, and skeptical towards what is perceived emotionally or understood intuitively. But this doesn't mean they're smarter. Society plays a huge role in how men are psychologically shaped too. My comment was directed to the ones that flat out said all women are braindead, wtf?
                                                        And yes, there are men who follow astrology and spirituality.

                                                        Btw astrology has been the object of scientific studies pretty recently if I'm not mistaken. I can't be more specific as I don't exactly recall the object of the studies but you can look it up.

                                                        Riguma Borusu

                                                          See, if you spent all the time you've been thinking about this learning statistics or any useful skill you'd understand where your delusion stems from.

                                                          Btw astrology has been the object of scientific studies pretty recently if I'm not mistaken. I can't be more specific as I don't exactly recall the object of the studies but you can look it up.

                                                          I won't, because unless you're able to provide a source I am not going to search for it. There are thousands of studies submitted every day. Some of them get taken down almost immediately, some take years to be properly reviewed. Particular studies aren't even worth much, only the scientific consensus and meta-analysis based research which can separate terrible studies from good ones.

                                                          And this is the problem with your entire way of thinking - you seem to recall astrology being scientifically explored recently. You don't know what it's about, you don't remember the study, just that it happened. You didn't even read it to see what it's about to remember and tell me all about it. You're really shallow and so not committed to this, and as such, extremely unconvincing to someone who actually has to deal with scientific studies almost every day of their lives.

                                                          You can't pretend to care about the reality of things while at the same time not actually putting any time or work into researching it. Your anecdote is irrelevant but you hold it in high regard. When I said this to my sister (a devoted religious fanatic) she was offended that I called her experiences "anecdotes", but that's literally what all our experiences are. The point is, my experiences are also irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, but I don't try to prove anything using them, I know it's dumb. Even the premise of this post is dumb in that manner - I can't decide that people who believe in astrology are dumbasses on the account of meeting several who are. That's a generalization and not a very helpful one.

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                                                          Hatrið mun sigra

                                                            You made the mistake of thinking I'm here to convince you. I'm not selling something or potentially receiving any advantage from your shift of opinion. I left a comment to just express my point of view, that is completely different from yours, but if you wanna dig deeper into the subject that is up to you. Why would I care about not your opinion on astrology, but your opinion on my point of view.

                                                            cartel

                                                              oh my god what've you done mayushi.....don't you know...you don't fuck with slq...unless you want 20 pages of 14 line comments basically saying the same thing over and over...i remember his arguments with cookie about shadowpool...
                                                              why mayushi why

                                                              cartel

                                                                wow slq not the one writing alot this time slq big boy now

                                                                Riguma Borusu

                                                                  You made the mistake of thinking I'm here to convince you.

                                                                  You went into so much detail to explain how it has worked out for you that it'd be a mistake not to think you're trying to convince me.

                                                                  I'm not selling something or potentially receiving any advantage from your shift of opinion.

                                                                  This is wrong - you would certainly feel a rush of serotonin if I actually acknowledged your point of view as relevant. Even though I am a random person on the internet, you're invested in this because you took the time to share your perspective with me so if I truly acknowledge you're getting a return on your investment.

                                                                  Why would I care about not your opinion on astrology, but your opinion on my point of view.

                                                                  Because you can learn something. Humans are easily deceived. Investing in tools to not be deceived as easily is highly beneficial. It will save you time, save you money and in the end give you a more comprehensive understanding of the world. Learning how the world REALLY works has big payouts for those who care to invest.

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                                                                    Lmao rush of serotonin if you acknowledged my point of view, are you serious? If you think strangers on the internet need your validation or that you hold the truths of the universe, if I were you I'd wonder who's the delusional one here.

                                                                    Riguma Borusu

                                                                      It doesn't have to be me in particular, but people do get a rush of serotonin when they're being accepted and validated. The more they care about the person, obviously, the more effective it's going to be. Strangers on the internet are the bottom of the barrel there, but it still does happen. Humans feel happy when they receive likes from strangers, when they're told they're right, etc. If you want to disagree with this, be my guest, but the entire social network structure is based exactly on the fact that people feel happy when they're validated, by strangers or otherwise. It's not as effective for everyone, however.

                                                                      EDIT: I've been writing serotonin - I meant dopamine.

                                                                      Also this problem got so serious people started researching social network addiction because it elevated people's hormonal levels:
                                                                      read on it here (it's behind a paywall for most people, tho)
                                                                      https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/cpd/2014/00000020/00000025/art00007

                                                                      Also, while it's possible to get a "happy balance" of hormones online, it's also possible to dig deeper into anxiety and depression because of a "not so happy" balance. When you aren't being validated or accepted, when you're told to kys and that you suck etc.

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                                                                      Hatrið mun sigra

                                                                        Oh no, not when it comes to my personal beliefs and stuff. That'd be pretty worrying
                                                                        Did my point of view affect you in any way?

                                                                        Dude I only use FB and my last profile picture is from 2010, just to give you an idea of what I think about that lol
                                                                        Honestly I need it when it comes to looks only, but this is clearly not the case nor the right place

                                                                        You mean when I bring my serious irl problems/mood on a forum of baboons? But they're not the cause of the outbursts, they're an excuse to lash out. Who cares about internet baboons who offend or claim they know the Truth, let's be serious

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                                                                        Riguma Borusu

                                                                          Well, yes, it made me understand your position better. Which is cool. But I cannot completely relate to that type of thinking because I'd long left it behind me. My line of thinking needs to lead to a product that works. As such, I cannot be lead by faulty intuition and false attribution. When I analyze something I need to truly understand why things happen. I don't need a "hunch", I need an "understanding", and I need to use that understanding further, to be able to predict and design more things using that knowledge.

                                                                          Speaking about your personal experience, I've heard the type of an experience many times. And most often it just boils down to really really crappy memory that we all have. It's easy to remember wins or losses (depending on what you want to focus on) and it's hard to remember things you really want to forget.

                                                                          Even if you make 10 right predictions and they all turn out to be true, there are several aspects missing:
                                                                          1) Would they have happened if you hadn't "predicted" them? (google self-fulfilling prophecy)
                                                                          2) Are you sure what happened is exactly what you imagined/defined?
                                                                          3) Are you sure there were only 10 things and not more like 20+ but you conveniently forgot about half of them?
                                                                          4) Are you sure you can even trust your memory on the previous matters?
                                                                          5) If your answer is yes, could you explain why the most skeptic people really really really don't hold their own memory in high regard?

                                                                          And that'd be it. I understand your point of view, but there are so many holes to poke there that none of it really matters, and would probably fall apart under any scrutiny. Just like everything else, basically.

                                                                          I've had many ideas that broke down under further scrutiny that I can't even count them. Some of them, I have even conveniently forgotten. People are beings that are very very good at "conveniently forgetting things" and pretending they didn't happen. So even if I asked you if you're sure that you didn't predict that something else would happen but it didn't turn out to be true, I could not trust your answer, not because you'd want to lie to me (you might, but let's ignore that possibility), the main problem is that you don't even understand you've already filtered your memory to a degree that you can't really be certain of anything.

                                                                          I mean, I know I can't. That's why I keep tons of records of everything I care about, and even then I forget to write things down...

                                                                          We are very good at motivated thinking and we don't lie to anybody as much as we lie to ourselves, in order to make our narratives coherent.

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                                                                            I understand where you're coming from. That's also why I said I'm not here to convince you. Not only am I not interested in doing that, but I can only talk from experience, which is a personal thing far from being rational and scientific. It's pretty pointless since we seem to be polar opposites on this aspect

                                                                            cartel

                                                                              mayushi getting the big oof on this one
                                                                              slq finally accepting that arguing on dotabuff isnt the solution pog

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                                                                              DC.MASON

                                                                                Bro, if you're 127 IQ & still not at least Divine/Ancient then you have motor skills issues

                                                                                i have motivation and attention span issues :(

                                                                                DC.MASON

                                                                                  or maybe stars said that i can't be 6k?
                                                                                  it unironically feels like that sometimes

                                                                                  Cheap Laugh Guy

                                                                                    miekuah-P

                                                                                      Astrology is haram and totally syirk thou. So yeah. Fate is controlled by us not a stupid constellation

                                                                                      miekuah-P

                                                                                        Also this whole thread becoming psychology class lmao

                                                                                        Saya Tidak Takut, Hadapi ...

                                                                                          Holy shit look at these people pretending to be smart because they don't believe in astrology but still believe in god and virgins giving birth

                                                                                          👉👉P O S I T I V I T Y :D

                                                                                            I don't see why the gender would matter here. if there is someone who is in a bad mood I'll try to cheer them up. this attitude won't help them or me to have a good time playing

                                                                                            And I don't understand the connection to zodiacs. people experience stuff in life, and it affects their mood. how the fact that you were born between november to december changes anything?

                                                                                            I am a cancer, so what?

                                                                                            Feachairu

                                                                                              hi my horoscope say everyone except me is retarded
                                                                                              bow down to me

                                                                                              👉👉P O S I T I V I T Y :D

                                                                                                so it should be the same for me no?

                                                                                                you said you were also cancer

                                                                                                Feachairu

                                                                                                  no
                                                                                                  i actually different horosope
                                                                                                  my horospce is

                                                                                                  fjklsdjfaklafyounlkklfdsnooblk;sflkasfdklsdaf

                                                                                                  👉👉P O S I T I V I T Y :D

                                                                                                    oh sorry you almighty non-retard

                                                                                                    Feachairu

                                                                                                      i thank you for your praises

                                                                                                      Eddie

                                                                                                        That dude with the anime profile picture sure has a lot of time to spare and no friends to talk to

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