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General DiscussionAnyone else heard of someone losing 1.8k mmr besides me ?

Anyone else heard of someone losing 1.8k mmr besides me ? in General Discussion
Filthy

    Long story short I have lost 1.8 k mmr after taking about 7 months of from dota split up over two time periods after shattering my leg and a couple surgeries . Anyways I pretty much dropped 1.4k mmr pretty fast and saw that everyone was playing like trash so I decided to try to learn mid losing another 400 mmr . ( i originally climbed mmr playing position 1 , 4, and 3 pretty much exclusively) the main reason why I seem to suck now is for some reason I cannot seem to click accurately at all . I know I pretty much doubled my monitor size I dunno if this is part of it although I know it mostly just must be my hand coordination going down or something . Anyways of course people that boosted would drop tons of mmr but has anyone dropped this much that didn't get boosted ? I haven't really cared too much about losing the mmr becuase I know it'l come back when my skills returns but the quality of players has gotten so shitty that it is starting to annoy me now. I fear I may have to unleash the Riki to gain back my mmr but do not want to be forced to do this . Also I don't even Riki could recOver 1.8k mmr ( maybe 1k mmr) lol. Back to the monitor thing . Do y'all think bringing out my dusty old small monitor from the garage would help ? I dunno if the wife would even be down for that tbh considering how much nicer the new monitor is . At any rate I should be able to gain back the mmr I am just very frustrated with my clicking inaccuracy , it's like I know where I want to click but I seem to be clicking like a centimeter off or something .

    Scarifar

      tl;dr

      git gud

      That's basically the responses you'll get.

      Mekarazium
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        Jacked

          I don't think it's possible to lose 1.8k because of misclicks tbh. Did u get brain damage along with your shattered leg by any chance?

          Filthy

            Lol , well of course the misclicks not the only reason and no damage I know of , I probably suck at everything more , just the thing that aggravates me the most is the inaccurate clicks becuase it's literally in front of my face all game long where as something like a poor decision happens a lot less times for instance we probably click like around 100 times a minute in dota , that's a lot of reminders of you sucking .

            Jacked

              Did u change your mouse

              Shou

                lemao
                dropping 1.8k mmr wud make me negative lmao

                Filthy

                  I am maybe just too worn out physically to play like I used too I have quite a extensive medical record I'll probably retire from military in the next two years . I have nerve damage and three herniated disk and both wrist pretty jacked up ( still pushing decent weight at the gym though as far as upper body and core goes ) dislocated both shoulders several times , countless sprains and various other minor injuries , i wonder if the hand / wrist injurys are messing up my clicking tbh . Anyways I made thread mostly to see if anyone else has ever lost this much mmr legitimately .

                  DC.MASON

                    yes i know a guy losing ~2k mmr

                    Filthy

                      Road to crippling , that just means you only got one way to go pretty much and that's up , I started at 2k flat so you can climb for sure .

                      Filthy

                        Wow 2k what happened to him ?

                        Jacked

                          Seems like your body is fucked and you're getting old and playing positions you're not used to. But at most I'd say u lose 1k mmr.

                          Jacked

                            How much did u buy your acct?

                            DC.MASON

                              im not sure if he plays dota anymore but he climbed to like 5.8 for sure from original 6.8

                              Filthy

                                So he dropped from 6.8 k to 4.8 k?

                                Filthy

                                  And diox I got plenty of money to buy a account if I wanted but there would be no fun in that aye .

                                  DC.MASON

                                    yes

                                    Filthy

                                      O well I magine that would suck a lot , I would think my mmr situation is not as bad since I dropped from a lot lower then 6.8k lol . Welp I think Ima try out Riki and see if I can atleast get back into high skill real quick .

                                      Filthy

                                        Check out this game, was a throne race yesterday , I didn't know which team won when the game ended was pretty intense , look at the double battle fury pa lol , after seeing that I was like dam I gotta get serious about getting some mmr back .
                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3336331530

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                                        Jacked

                                          Or you could reminisce the good old days. No one knows what they're doing and just having fun.

                                          Filthy

                                            Well that's kinda what I was doing with playing tiny ( tiny is the most fun hero in the game for me to play ) but at some point if you are competitive you get tired of losing .

                                            Kuchiki Byakuya

                                              what I've noticed about MMR calibration, is that those who calibrated in the early years of dota, or even 2-3 years ago, have a higher probabilty to land a high mmr compared to people who calibrate today.

                                              e.g. let's say your skill is around 3k-4k mmr this season, if you did the calibration 2-3 years earlier, you would've gottan something like 3.5k-4.5k mmr. I say this because I know people who have pretty high mmr, but their skills don't match their mmr,.. and what they do is they stop playing solo.

                                              TLDR -- MMR calibration is more difficult, not because people are more competitive, but because the dynamics of the game have evolved pretty much.

                                              Filthy

                                                ^ interesting comment , I dunno how much of it applys to me though since I calibrated fairly low 2k flat and slowly grinded almost 3k more mmmr over a period of about two years . I'm sure some of those changing dynamics you mentioned apply to me though . Then again who knows what mmr I would calibrate at if I started dota 2 today probably 1k lol .

                                                Filthy

                                                  One thing I would also mention in my decent of mmr is the whole time I was playing in a quest to get my skill back , not nessecarly win , so I am sure I would have lost less mmr if I played all games solely trying to win .

                                                  Jacked

                                                    Btw what did u do in army
                                                    To get so fkdup

                                                    kormoranas

                                                      when i stopped playing dota for two years, i was 4200 before that, after returning i dropped down to maybe 2970 something. Then i climbed back to 4896, and then they nerfed jungle. I mostly climbed by playing jungle ursa/legion, and now that jungle is nerfed, i dropped to 4083 at the moment. Like you are saying, i really feel that in this bracket players are really playing like shit.
                                                      And its hard for me to have one firm conclusion, why i'm still strugling with these shitty low skilled players, but mostly my opinion is that my hero pool is bad for meta. I play heroes, that can hardly carry a team even if you play good. Like silencer (most of the games, over 50 stolen intelligence, dominated mid lane etc, but still enemy has something like am, juggernaut or whatever that wrecks all the shit late). So i'm thinking that i should start learning play heroes that really do decide the game.

                                                      Bungmangler

                                                        Go carry or go Home

                                                        Jacked

                                                          Interesting perspective kormoranas. Licetea no.2?

                                                          I guess the hero u play matters. I play with ppl who are way above me in terms of skill an game sense. But they just make the wrong decisions and lose. I don't really know how to explain it

                                                          Jacked

                                                            Good At the game. "Skill" as some people here like to call it - as though it is something separate from winning. To have "skill" but not know how to win. This could probably be it. Good at understanding what heroes do, how to get kills, how to survive etc, but no idea how to end a game, or create an advantage or win with objectives.

                                                            kormoranas

                                                              Well, jungle before was really op, i had 66% wr on ursa, 62% on legion, 60% on lifestealer, basically no matter how hard team lost lanes, you could dominate mid game. Especially ursa, all the time i was around 2 levels above the highest level in game. But now jungle giving 20% less exp+ extra creep in mid is too much. + Ursa had 3 dmg reduction :(

                                                              SaronMoran

                                                                Playing solely in jungle suggests that your laning skills are weak.
                                                                As you have now dropped a significant MMR due to a jungle nerf this also backs up the fact that your MMR was inflated by being able to farm uncontested and then could play well with a gold advantage.
                                                                I would believe that this makes you one of the lower skilled played kormoranas in your current bracket.
                                                                Low 4k is a cancer nest which I am currently negotiating and most of it is not due to basic skills, a lot of it is due to terrible awareness and bad knowledge of how to win with the heros they have drafted.
                                                                Also the attitude of the players when things do not go their way they are much more quick to tilt and start throwing and blaming teammates.

                                                                kormoranas

                                                                  This game is mostly about gold and exp advantage. You can see plays videos on youtube, fuckin highlights, but they are 5 minutes from 40-60 minutes matches. The rest is farming and getting edge in the game.
                                                                  I would also say that around 20-30% of the matches are over before they begin due to poor drafts.
                                                                  Jungle was not great for farming uncontested, believe me, there were hundreds of games that enmy had pudge/riki/bh/mh just hunting you and nothing esle. I would say that main advantage from jungle is, that they open up one more slot for team to farm. And instead of 3 farming heroes your team has 4, and in terms of 4 the fourth hero is even leading, and breaking game mid, what allows rest of team to catch up.
                                                                  But its very different now, with ursa i could take roshan in minute 5-6 before, now usually its minute 8-10, and this difference is huge, since game progression is not linear, each new item requiers less and less time to farm. So if you would calculate lets say your 4-5 core items the differense in time when you could farm them becomes huge.

                                                                  I do not agree that i suck in laning stage, since with most heroes i play, i win it, but as i said before, i play heroes that do not have such huge impact for team, that can carry it. For example in game i start like 4 times killing windranger/invoker early, and the int loss looks significant to cripple their games, but these heroes still become dominant late game, and silencer still needs huge help from teamates to do so .so i really think that my hero pool is one of main problems

                                                                  evy

                                                                    Stuck on old meta?
                                                                    Worn out physically?
                                                                    New specs?
                                                                    Well those factors ain't gonna send you back up

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                                                                    Filthy

                                                                      Lol well see , plus 75 so far . First goal is to raise 500 mmr back .

                                                                      TNL.Jolly_Hotdog

                                                                        i once dropped from 9k to 7k so yeah that's possible. try to play some random deathmatch, ability draft for 100 or so games before playing ranked again.

                                                                        Filthy

                                                                          ^ thanks for advice but being formally 9k does not sound legit considering there is not many 9ks total in the world .

                                                                          trench

                                                                            i dropped 4k mmr. sad story.

                                                                            Filthy

                                                                              How did you drop 4K mmr / from what mmr did you drop ?

                                                                              StanceWorks

                                                                                @No DC pls don't lie nigga you been 2500mmr for life.

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                                                                                Jacked

                                                                                  he is the 4k slayer although never been to 4k himself. he's sub 1k and also failed math

                                                                                  Jacked

                                                                                    he wouldve hypothetically dropped abt 3k mmr since he's 4k slayer god apoop

                                                                                    Filthy

                                                                                      Ya gotta agree 4K mmr drop seems pretty far fetched .

                                                                                      Filthy

                                                                                        This is the biggest loser competition , need I will give a prize for proof of losing more then 1.8k.

                                                                                        Filthy

                                                                                          Feels a bit filthy playing rikor in normal skill but desperate times call for desperate measures plus 200 mmr so far .

                                                                                          Raining in Manila

                                                                                            frankz disciple

                                                                                            Tribo

                                                                                              Spam 3 heroes to get MMR.
                                                                                              PS: Anyone wants my damn KOTL nudes?
                                                                                              PS.2: Is Jacked here?

                                                                                              Filthy

                                                                                                Ahh damit wife rage turned off computer :(

                                                                                                Filthy

                                                                                                  Welp thanks to the wife lost 50 mmr so now w only plus 150 going to be a hella long journey back up , maybe regret all those games screwing around with mid .

                                                                                                  🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                                    this game is 90% theory and only 10% execution

                                                                                                    your new monitor makes barely any difference, it's just muscle memory that any human being would get used to within a week.

                                                                                                    you gotta git gud scrub

                                                                                                    ETd

                                                                                                      I play at home, when my brother boots me off the computer i play on my laptop, then when I have breaks in between college classes I play in a computer shop, whichever one isn't full from the 6 or so surrounding the university, all with different hardware setups. The equipment shouldn't matter to the extent of a 1.8K MMR drop. Might just be your regression of skill from those breaks you took, as well as game knowledge falling behind.

                                                                                                      Jacked

                                                                                                        @filthy soldier boy gets whipped by his Wife. Who just turns off your computer lmao. Put on some pants brotha