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General DiscussionRip Smurfs (Ranked games now need phone number :D )

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Snu

    Because DotA will what? Collect your chat? Hours played, and time played?
    Your cell phone will what? Record everything it can with its Mic, any pictures taken, location (GPS) that can be turned on without your permission? Two different entities mate - not worth trying to compare.

    -DI- TheDrengr

      this is awesome, literally going to make matchmaking so much better, less smurfs, less boosters, can play truly solo que, less peruvians/sea players on useast/west servers,

      Also a big thing people didnt realize is that alot of times you were matched against a party but your team is all randoms, which is usually pretty bad for matchmaking as one team has considerablly better team work than the other. now in solo que you don't have to worry about an enemy team being 2 parties that 5 man you at 15 minutes while your team of all random players are all split farming the jungle and not defending any towers

      low prio master

        I did read all of these superior ideas and opinions, its unbelievable how retarde.d most of you are when not talk only dota.

        >tfw no gamer girl peeing gf

          this one is even better
          "With the return of the Solo Queue, solo players who enter Ranked Matchmaking can now choose to be matched only with other solo players. Any player who selects this option will be placed into matches where all ten players are queuing solo."
          tnx valve.

          I can smell 5k already

          1-IceTea 🌟

            Just read through,good update

            1-IceTea 🌟

              I don't think other will effect me much,but

              intentionally ruining games for other players is never condoned. To help address concerns in this area, we’ve also added better detection for clear cases of intentional feeding, and will be applying stricter punishments to those who violate this rule.

              These,is a really good stuff

              Sand1

                Shit! it's been a year since I stopped using cell phones

                1-IceTea 🌟

                  BTW will this update removed my 3 LP or Nah? :)

                  I found myself doing ^^ buy multiple couriers and all going down mid in LP,idk why I am so helpful and kind to enemies.
                  AM I AN ANGLE?

                  basement :)

                    You realize multiple couriers do not feed gold?

                    Dire Wolf

                      ip and mac filtering wouldn't work because lan parties, people switching pcs so on and so forth. A cell number is much more straightforward.

                      I just don't get why people get such a bug up their asses about privacy. What are you afraid of? If we lived in russia where they imprison gays and anyone who speaks ill of the government then yes I'd be worried, but that doesn't happen in the US. Really the worst that will happen to any normal individual is they sell your crap to advertisers who bombard you with spam. Maybe it makes you a little more susceptible to identity theft but it's doubtful. I think most people just don't like the idea of being spied on but how much does it really affect us? Are you afraid of being caught for torrents or some crap? Using recreational drugs? I really doubt anyone cares about a small fry like any of us over stuff like that, which I don't do anyway. I don't do anything illegal, my life is not interesting, you can't get my identity from phone records or internet history cus those numbers are transferred through ssl encryption junk so you'd have to hack my bank site.

                      If you're a public figure it makes a lot more sense. Politicians get spied on all the time. But for us little guys I don't see the worry.

                      You say you value your privacy. Overvalue is more like it cus no one really cares except a few advertisers.

                      Snu

                        Privacy is important in the same way your other freedoms are important.
                        Just like gun control (a widely controversial theme in America). It isn't that I overvalue my guns and my right to have them - I value my right to have my guns in case the government ever becomes a dictatorship (or anything of the sort).
                        Society is taking a really weird path down the roads of Politically correctness. Knowing that, and knowing that my not being politically correct and having different ideas will make me an inevitable threat to the fascist America we will one day have (being intolerant of MY ideas, meaning if I even DISAGREE I will be a threat to society). In a US where "Hate Speech" is being considered and talked about on a national scale, privacy should be an ever growing concern - not decreasing. A college asked to ban words like "Lame" because they might offend someone who identifies as being lame. Seriously? If society really goes down that path, I want them to know as little about me as possible. :D

                        PS. Pass the tin foil hat.

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                        Junsui

                          This is so over the top no one can possibly think hes being serious...right?

                          doc joferlyn simp

                            inb4 Snu faps to hardcore gangbang midget porn on his cell phone ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                            Ryan Gosling Fan

                              Wow i wonder whats so strange about your guys privacy that you think someone could about your datas and shit. I dont care at all everyone can know im rich as fuck, watching pervert porn all Day and have No friends at all...

                              Cheap Laugh Guy

                                Having to involve my phone number just to play ranked dota feels... really weird
                                But that will reduce a lot of smurfers
                                Still, I'm not sure the true motive behind this change

                                Dave R

                                  *snu
                                  It isn't that I overvalue my guns and my right to have them - I value my right to have my guns in case the government ever becomes a dictatorship (or anything of the sort).

                                  I don't think I have laughed so much from reading a post in so long thanks for that

                                  Väinämöinen

                                    Dave R

                                    Germans in 1936 didnt know that hitler would turn full nazi mode.
                                    what if all those jews had weapons?

                                    Celine

                                      Wtf there was a photo of Jesus holding AK47 so pretty sure jews have weapons
                                      Dont tell me it was a photoshop there was no photoshop back then

                                      xx
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                                        Celine

                                          Obviously you can still register after 4th of May

                                          Heil Hydra

                                            rip smurfs
                                            dude.... I cant sell 4k account for kids in my net café anymore :(

                                            E
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                                              "First, being marked for low-priority matches now results in a duration-based ban from the Ranked queue, in addition to the current game-count-based low priority requirement. The ban will start at a low threshold of a few hours, and increase up to four days for players who are very frequently in low priority."

                                              gl hf retard player xD

                                              xx

                                                what if your account is still not at level 20 badge but I have my number at steam itself. Can I still register my number and play ranked after may 4?

                                                🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                  yea, you can add phone whenever @xx

                                                  ILC - Lethal Ninja

                                                    YOU MEAN VALVE READ MY WHINE IN DOTABUFF AND DECIDED TO DO AN UPDATE?

                                                    13 y.o (ghoul) (dead inside)

                                                      lol I dont know whats so bad about needing phone number? when you register at youtube it needs a phone number, even gmail. its not like it asks you permission for your credentials. Afaik it will send a confirmation code if its you or not. Thats it. No invasion of privacy and shit like that.

                                                      fx

                                                        Mom i need your phone to watch porn

                                                        Dance of the NeoVim

                                                          Y u heff to be med? Iz oly phonenumber..

                                                          Chaos_Fantasy

                                                            I don't have a smartphone I just have a normal cellphone can I still play ranked? Or do I need the Steam app?

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                                                            Use chatwhell=mute

                                                              Yes u can play with nokia 3310. Only sim card matters. I heard new numbers(sim card) cost like 0.50$ in sea asia iirc. Its kinda true that i can buy new sim card 1.20$. But imo this is cant stop smurf/acc buying completely.

                                                              King.Leonidas

                                                                "tie my DotA account to my OLDER FRIENDS cell phone"

                                                                @snu got it, so it's not that you're against privacy and all that shit.. mommy and daddy won't give you a phone yet

                                                                Use chatwhell=mute

                                                                  Y its nothing rly big problem for sea acc sellers.

                                                                  Meku
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                                                                      Meku

                                                                        guys this may sound stupid but how do you add mobile number to ur steam account?

                                                                        only playing for fun

                                                                          *1 week in the future*
                                                                          Valve releases phone that can only work with sim cards bought from their store...
                                                                          And you can only play ranked with a Valve phone ROFL...
                                                                          Fuck you Valve we are not stupid we know that you dont really care about dota or any other game you just care about profit... If this dosent change dota will become pay to play and soon after pay to win. I really dont want to see that. I spend tens of thousands of ours playing dota and now Vavle shits on me because they dont care about what I/we want but only what they want... So Sad...

                                                                          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                            there's literally a button in the ranked queue selection

                                                                            how do you not see it, it's giant and it's glowing

                                                                            Juice

                                                                              \o/

                                                                              Great! Mb I'll now reach 2k without the "You should not feel sorry for losing, Im a 6k player just boosting this account to..." -player 3 times in a row. After which I decided to give up the whole ranked play.

                                                                              Now before you go on wondering that what if the booster happens to be at my team; I dont need a booster to help me. Besides, there are only 4 slots available on random booster to fill on my team, but the enemy team has 5 so there's a 20% chance of a booster being put on enemy team than on your team, since you are not a booster obviously.

                                                                              Wonderful news for me, though this will not prevent boosting / ruining games fully, it still makes it less frequent. Good job!

                                                                              dioxgamingpro

                                                                                at least they didn't nerf smurfing.

                                                                                Celine

                                                                                  They forgot to buff your brain tho

                                                                                  Zen

                                                                                    Are you fucking kidding me?? @Snu That would mean that at tournaments we can't use the computers for anything else, but the offline event and that's it. Wp dud, wp

                                                                                    Snu

                                                                                      @bobby boucher - no I am 19, living on my own and can afford to make my own decisions (as far as whether or not i want a cell phone).

                                                                                      @Stirling - since when did pro's play tournaments in Ranked Matchmaking? Also, pretty sure that is all they use the Valve-Provided computers for anyways? Aside from Speccing games and creating footage.

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                                                                                      Beks

                                                                                        whats with low priority ?
                                                                                        you have 4 days to play lp instead win 5games ??

                                                                                        Beks

                                                                                          This update also includes several changes intended to remove undesirable behavior from the matchmaking pool.

                                                                                          First, being marked for low-priority matches now results in a duration-based ban from the Ranked queue, in addition to the current game-count-based low priority requirement. The ban will start at a low threshold of a few hours, and increase up to four days for players who are very frequently in low priority.

                                                                                          Next, it should go without saying that while the wide variety of playstyles that Dota players bring to a given match will always be welcome, intentionally ruining games for other players is never condoned. To help address concerns in this area, we’ve also added better detection for clear cases of intentional feeding, and will be applying stricter punishments to those who violate this rule.

                                                                                          Finally, we’ve also added detection for users that are botting, and with this update have issued a permanent ban to a large number of recently-detected bot accounts. This should help resolve several areas in which these bot accounts have a negative effect on the experience of the Dota community.

                                                                                          Snowy

                                                                                            Maybe you could receieve messages to your skype acc, or use a google phone number.

                                                                                            This whole phone number policy is dumb. Its just a way for valve to make extra $$$ by selling our information to cold callers.

                                                                                            Literally has 0 deterrence to BOtters, who can just buy cheap sims enmasse less than a $ each.

                                                                                            GRANT MACDONALD

                                                                                              Cell phones are like the cheapest thing on earth to acquire. If you care enough to play ranked dota, you have access to a cell phone also

                                                                                              M
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                                                                                                Fucking Valve ! They just want a TextMAte

                                                                                                Lazer

                                                                                                  Being a software engineer/security evangelist myself, I really don't understand how you can be so against cell phones yet play games on Steam. It really fucking boggles my mind unless you're playing through a Tor network or similar type of system to conceal your identity, but in that case you'd be lagging so hard the game probably wouldn't be playable. You're either very ignorant or just trying to get attention.

                                                                                                  If you TRULY value your privacy that much, you wouldn't be sending your IP over the Internet to countless of angry children who have at their disposal tons of tools to track you down and screw with you digitally.

                                                                                                  And for your last remark, IP + MAC filtering will not work. It is flawed at a fundamental level because there is nothing stopping me or anyone from spoofing this information as it leaves mine/your machine.

                                                                                                  Dire Wolf

                                                                                                    "First, being marked for low-priority matches now results in a duration-based ban from the Ranked queue, in addition to the current game-count-based low priority requirement. The ban will start at a low threshold of a few hours, and increase up to four days for players who are very frequently in low priority"

                                                                                                    I don't really see how this makes a difference. First incident in lpq is like 3 wins? Assuming you win at a 50% clip, it still takes 5-6 hours to get out of lpq. So the games you need to win is longer than the ban duration in almost all cases I think. Unless they don't run concurrently and run sequentially.