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General Discussiongood heroes to spam

good heroes to spam in General Discussion
core or whore

    heroes that are also flexible against anyone. first pick worthy ones

    Riguma Borusu

      you should probably spam invoker since you have 61% WR with him?

      core or whore

        my invoker is pretty bad lately

        2k indog monkey

          Any hero that isn't absolutely dead like QoP or gyro

          meteor hammer

            i spent a long time first picking WW, although it can be kinda LUL worthy when the enemy team picks timbersaw + swm or some shit

            Freya 69

              Against anyone? Tiny and Sven... Actually flexible and good against anyone pretty much correlates to strength cores in general.

              2k indog monkey

                Sven is good if you can play him well
                I usually end up being a creep eating impactless retard when I play him [*]

                pixy

                  Make sven great forever

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                    Try Aw bruuu

                    wetan

                      I think juggernaut is a solid one.

                      Seven-

                        sand king or void or magnus if ur the space creating type

                        dead

                          why wont you suggest timber alice

                          Seven-

                            he isnt flexible and requires u to have lots of experience

                            if i could go back in time i would probably play sandking/void for 300 games instead of timber

                            but those 2 DIDNT CUT IT BACK THEN

                            dead

                              triplesteal- climbed to 5k using timber though, plus timber is a hero that never gets boring imo, since the feeling you get after out playing 3 heroes is orgasmic

                              Seven-

                                we'll climb to 5k with timber too XDXDXD

                                but hey, he said flexible, and we both know timber isnt that flexible

                                if he said recommend a fun hero to use i would insta-recommend timber

                                dead

                                  good point,
                                  op, i suggest luna, jug, sk

                                  LosT

                                    jug sven luna are da best

                                    Celine Bidon

                                      im going to spam cancer like silencer! gl to all!

                                      Mushi

                                        spam techies no one will counter you

                                        Santa Claus

                                          just first pick slardar

                                          Beks

                                            luna od

                                            dead inside

                                              For me its slark & voker. 800-3,3k in 1 month

                                              Shou

                                                Void. Always void. He fits in almost every line up. Sven can get kinda rekt by heroes like ww, disruptor, who kite him from a distance. Or bkb piercing disables like Pudge, magnus, etc. Don't think its first pick, but u can pick him middle phase if u see the enemy drafting into a Sven and those heroes mentioned not fitting the draft well on their team. Say they already picked supports like cm, and treant, and banned Pudge, then Sven is a gr8 pick IMO. Of course this is regarding cm, but just translate it over to ap it'll work. I think.

                                                Sei la

                                                  Spirit Breaker, Bounty Hunter, Doom, Crystal Maiden, Tidehunter, Clockwerk, Earthshaker, Shadow Demon, Ogre Magi, Omniknight...
                                                  Get flexible first-pick heroes that help your team think of their picks as well... When I got from 4k down to 3.5k, I began spamming Ogre, Clock and SB for 60%+ winrate each, got back to 4k in a few weeks.

                                                  Also, keep in mind your MMR's meta... <2k is basically SB and Omni heaven... 4-5k seem to be great for Silencer/SD...

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                                                  4pos pudge/grim only

                                                    kunkka always fun and kinda good imo. i mean x mark and torrent literally catch everyone pre bkb or euls, and come with free cleave and life-sustaining boat, how come its not good? and imo kunkka is the best rapier carrier among all carry, just cleave and hope for the best

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                                                      Shou

                                                        Did someone say kunkka rapier?
                                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2666871377
                                                        When u win after pa with 30 min bf

                                                        Seoulmate

                                                          Windranger

                                                          Freya 69

                                                            Hey I just thought of a great hero to spam mid if you're into being a rebel. Ogre Magi.

                                                            Ok, hear me out first.

                                                            Tangos + Basilius as starting items
                                                            Bloodlust as your starting skill.

                                                            660 hp
                                                            4.2 hp regen
                                                            254 mana
                                                            1.3 mana regen
                                                            61+7 damage
                                                            37% p dmg reduction
                                                            1.18s per attack (bl)
                                                            324 move speed (bl)

                                                            If you can't comfortably last hit with those stats... um, get better? Anyway, imagine this: 10 minute mark you have phase boots and vlads. You're level 7 (at least) with 4 points into Bloodlust.

                                                            Now your stats look like this:

                                                            1080 hp
                                                            7.8 hp regen
                                                            446 mana
                                                            2.1 mana regen
                                                            77+35 damage
                                                            44% p dmg reduction
                                                            0.92s per attack (bl)
                                                            394 move speed (bl) (476 phased)

                                                            And you're giving Bloodlust to any team mate you choose as well as vlads aura. Ez pz towers, right? Yes? No..? Well maybe it is a LITTLE trollish, but it does have solid grounds for being able to work with the level 1 stats. So there's that. I mean if you could farm 25 mmr every 15 minutes with this, wouldn't you? Just saying.. its a thing, sort of.

                                                            Shou

                                                              If u go ogre mid just max ignite then max blast. Go phase aghs blink octarine and perma stun someone for like 8 seconds. After that get a mana regen item like linkens, or hex, if u wanna go full troll buy eblade. He is a decent ac carrier too.

                                                              Shou

                                                                If u really wanna build him right click, I wud go phase, blink, mjollnir, ac, bloodthorn.

                                                                evy

                                                                  Ogre DPS carry?
                                                                  Must try
                                                                  SEAcret club boys help me out

                                                                  I3ambi

                                                                    Ogre, Warlock.

                                                                    Clockwork, faceless.

                                                                    Luna.

                                                                    Freya 69

                                                                      I swear its legit! The math on this is there. Just look at the early game stats. Maybe you can build him in any way you like, but his starting stats with a quell or basi and that hp regen and armor makes it so he has no trouble farming while ignoring the enemies' harass. Damage is there, attack speed, sustainability and mobility. Its all there, I swear!

                                                                      You could even go Echo, Deso or something like Pike for further force staff mobility and tank stats from Dragon.

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                                                                      miekuah-P

                                                                        Silencer w/ silver edge. Obbiously cancerous way to help ur carry to counter every enemies passives

                                                                        Johnny Rico

                                                                          keeper and ogre if you sup

                                                                          oof

                                                                            shadofiend

                                                                            but if seriously its riki

                                                                            Dire Wolf

                                                                              Luna. Wtf counters luna? Just a strong hero that fits into most lineups, though she can only lane safe pretty much.

                                                                              yung griphook

                                                                                i've been picking ogre or warlock a lot lately and have had pretty good results (ns bracket). I think they're strong right now

                                                                                Dire Wolf

                                                                                  oh if we're including supports sure. Jakrio and cm work too for supports, or lion.

                                                                                  _kuhaku_

                                                                                    Techies support is great, you can disturb the enemy jungle and when late game comes plant bombs near tower

                                                                                    likeabossr

                                                                                      Invoker

                                                                                      chaeryeong

                                                                                        Crystal Maiden

                                                                                        chaeryeong

                                                                                          also Luna you cucks

                                                                                          Onions

                                                                                            Best counter for Luna or any other fat lategame carry is to not let them get fat. Harass their lane, gank them and make their lane hell.
                                                                                            Best +25 hero to spam is Necro provided you know the 2-3 ways to play him.

                                                                                            Riguma Borusu

                                                                                              ^this does not work when people don't know how to close out games

                                                                                              you can ruin luna's or sven's early game, and they still come on top lategame because the team has harder carries, and your team didn't push in time

                                                                                              since you are in normal skill I'd advise against doing this, instead just pick a harder carry and farm well