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      The mode could have been improved by making 2 heroes available from each stat, or categorizing by role, not primary stat.

      Expansion Pak

        It's a lot more fun to play more than just the same 2-3 heroes every game, anyway. Great article.

        Only good weeb is a dead ...

          Quite common in EU though, probably influenced by Wings.

          Coup de Grace

            I have never actually played RD, but I like playing single draft quite often. I like that for the same reasons; as well as leading to fun combinations and unusual heros in certain roles

            ez Art

              i really like RD but can't play it, queues are 15 min long


                But now supports have less gold with 7.03 :(

                "Passive gold income reduced by 10%"

                R.I.P. supports in yo' pubs EleGiggle

                Roose Bolton

                  Wings did not pick Techies+Pudge in the grand finals, they picked it first round upper bracket in game 2 against DC.

                  They also faced DC in the Grand Finals Bo5 but did not pick Techies/Pudge that series.

                  Go Beyond!

                    "The issues with Random Draft is that it there aren’t enough people playing it."

                    yep in my Foulfell you can't find RD, i wanted to play this one tho

                    Gabba Gabba

                      Authors last game was back in 2k15..... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?


                        ^ that IS strange. Explain yourself eggs.


                          Nice article


                            Best article on Dotabuff so far. A lot of points made here resonate with me. Bravo!


                              @@hide and seek

                              thanks, fixed!


                                "Wings did not shy away from picking a Techies and Pudge in the grand finals of TI6."

                                and then they got stomped :)


                                  Its sad there are 100+ heroes but you can see 20-30 same heroes used over and over.

                                  Wayful Spirit

                                    What's the point of picking an absolutely out of meta Oracle or Broodmother when there are stronger similar heroes? Even pro players spam certain heroes in pro matches. It's good to have a deep poll like EG, but it's not good to draft weak heroes and lose and draft meta heroes and win and repeat like Wings.

                                    VVibu SLayer

                                      who tf would pick broodmother in 7.03, she's so useless

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                                      Han Solo (shoots first)

                                        I'd prefer play mostly Random Draft now, for the reasons discussed here. All Pick is full of hero spammers, trolls, and smurfs. Random Draft is MUCH less likely to have any of those issues, for reasons I kinda but don't totally understand, and in general I like my teammates better and we try to figure out the winning strat. I love CM too, but only with a capt who at least tries to draft heroes the team can play. Surprisingly often the capt is like all good dota players should be able to play all the heroes ... I mean, I can play visage mid and even have once in a shit game 17 months ago, I'm sure it'll be fine, etc.


                                          @INTERISTIL I had to play the hero 7 times to get a win for the All-Hero Challenge because I'm a tryhard completionist and it takes that many games to get one victory...


                                            Dotabuff never talks about Battlepass Quests


                                              Tryhard players don't care about improving.They only care about winning, and if spamming always the same hero results in higher chance of winning, they'll do it. Thias is what not only competitive teams do (and always did) on the overall, but also "solo queue players". Are you annoyed about people always picking the same hero pools in every match? Suggest a system that does not allow that, if it bothers you. Unless something changes, things are gonna keep staying like this for now.

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                                                Couldn't agree more, the games where you get, based on their chat self proclaimed pros. They have a meltdown losing to a rare pick and you look on their profile and they only play 2-3 chars and not surprisingly have no idea of other chars.

                                                Spongebob fkin Squarepants

                                                  and that is why u never spam heroes


                                                    Does the tomb for xp on the Zeus mean that at min 11 he purchased the tomb and kept it all game long? Or... does that mean he purchased his first one at the 11th min then had another one at the end of the game he had not consumed?

                                                    Is this some eccentric ploy to boost tomb purchasing and holding like some love the enchanted mango?

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                                                      I love CM too, but only with a capt who at least tries to draft heroes the team can play

                                                      Some dimwit nagged at me to pick him WR offlane against NS
                                                      I'd rather play random draft that playing that shitfest of pro wannabes on solo queue


                                                        I hate myself being a noob. I think, what's holding me back to improve is doubting my own capability and skills.



                                                          One of the best articles ever! Nice Read.


                                                            Couldn't agree more with Eggs that Random Draft suffers a lack of players, I want to play but queue times exceeds 99 min most of the time.

                                                            #14 Sanze | yes

                                                              this is stupid
                                                              all china players playing random draft

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                                                                I used to spam Random draft back when it was a 24 hero pool, but now its 50 it has lost all of its appeal to me, I don't feel like it really limits people as one of their top 3 heroes is almost certainly going to be in the pool


                                                                  Can Dotabuff make a post about Crystal Maiden been picked 19 items in the Kiev Major Europe Regional Qualifier with a 63% winrate please? BibleThump


                                                                    AR for win!


                                                                      is roshan supposed to give you 2 cheeses? thought it was only 1


                                                                        Hi. I'm a noob and how do I learn to draft? I know I have to be aware of a lot of things that change when the meta changes, but I'm struggling to find even a general (objective) guide that points me to the right direction.

                                                                        @ProFeeder Thanks, I love you.


                                                                          Well said.
                                                                          I play Random Draft, and I really hope more ppl play it.


                                                                            I never liked to put random draft to my matchmaking much but in some period we put random in party and i gonna say i had very often really nice fun, but never more playing that little bit sad face but you guy propably know the same, it should be comon rule for new accounts playing at least - lets say tens of games RD, its actually give you a lot (gave me).


                                                                              if someone's spamming a specific hero for quite some time doesn't mean he'll play the same hero for the rest of his life. lol. no rule restrains people from spamming so deal with it. it's his loss if he doesn't get to learn much for doing so, anyway. :)

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                                                                                The best mode is single draft in low priority, I always enjoy as hell those games.


                                                                                  i enjoy lp because of this :P


                                                                                    thank you Dotabuff for helping me sharing the beauty of random draft. me and my friend is the only player in SEA looking for Random draft, or move to China server to playing there with 100+ ping but the teamwork in RD imo is a way better than ALLpick


                                                                                      This is amazing


                                                                                        single draft is fun too, and please, our concern is why is OP last game is 2 years ago.

                                                                                        ^ that IS strange. Explain yourself eggs.


                                                                                          We're on to to you Eggs


                                                                                            "Support players are few and far between, and you’re lucky if you have one of them."

                                                                                            Hits waaaaay too close to home, this. We're a dying breed. Haha!

                                                                                            In my opinion, positions 4 and 5 are the most complex roles to fill due the wide range of responsibilities these two positions are expected of: from disrupting enemy cores' farm by harassing and ganking, to maintaining and denying map vision, to timing good initiations and countering them, all with very limited gold and resources. Not much appreciation and support to supports in pubs.


                                                                                              lol,,,just find in rank match and 10 min already ...SEA Server prove that they are all cancer...xD


                                                                                                Bilo vremya


                                                                                                  Before random draft's rework (20 heroes) yeah sure you could improve from that, but in the new one (50 heroes) no you cant improve , not that much at least cause there will be a lot of meta heroes and counter heroes without a doubt. Im quite dissapointed from that change , back in warcraft lll this mode was quite fun and hard at the same time




                                                                                                      Nice read!
                                                                                                      But sometimes I got the feeling that you get no counter in random draft. Thats just bugging me!
                                                                                                      Besides that I gotta agree to Dissimilar Direction. You cannot aprove you play with a specific heroe when you only draft him every once in a while, because of too many heroes in the RD pool!