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NAG_SNUG'pa

    First!

    Helm of dominator on ogre magi + Centaur + bloodlust is hilariously good.

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    160344678

      Hello 2nd

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      Tutz^

        What about the cloak aura creeps like small ursas and cents?

        I do get them on Enchantress vsing a Zeus/Tinker, like a free Pipe of Insight passive.
        You can STACK creep cloak auras indefinetely, which nobody knows for some reason.

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        CabroniMacaroni

          Man, I can barely keep track of what I'm doing

          Triturate

            What about the poison wolves

            Cheshire.Elkie

              You know, most people comments on article with "First!", "Second".
              Can you stop being childish, and appreciate the content presented to you? They worked hard for that too.
              A better response would be criticism, asking questions, etc.

              Simba

                Purge creep is the best.

                SirFalcon

                  2 important factors that were overlooked.

                  Dark Troll's skeletons are the very best for farming the early jungle with Chen or Enchantress. You can get hand of Midas in well under 5 minuets if you happen to start with the Dark Troll. Also the skeletons benefit from Lone Druid's Battle Cry which can be devastating during a push.

                  Harpies, all of them, have the greatest vision in the game, even greater than that of an observer ward. A patrolling or force staffed to high ground harpy can provide superior vision and will not decay after 6 minuets.

                  1-IceTea 🌟

                    ^Quality comment

                    EL

                      The skeleton warriors from the Troll make useful scouts. In fact, not one mention of scouting with neuts in this post. What would one expect from DotA players though ;)

                      Ghastly Wail

                        Cool, didnt know that with the Harpies and the Vision.
                        Thats pretty nice and good to know.

                        I didnt even know about the move-click so creeps do follow.

                        HAWGT

                          why isn't there a filter to remove first, 1st, etc... comments?

                          Sarllo

                            the purgue of satyr banisher is equal to diff blade? i once use it (as doom) on omni (before 7.00) and didnt purgue any of his skills..

                            Nixon

                              Great Post -- I wish it had been a little more comprehensive & discussed all of the creeps, including the ancients and how to deal with them as LS, etc., but on the whole this was incredibly helpful.

                              My take away is that the Centaur with stomp or the alpha wolf are the way to go if you just want the best creep for "most" situations.

                              a kitten

                                I need to get into HotD and creeps, this is going to be a great list to start out with. Thanks.

                                smax

                                  @Sarllo right now they both states 'Basic Dispel', so they should be the same

                                  Dr. Evil

                                    A lack of any auras on the creep also make it a better one-time gank companion, rather than a loyal friend for the duration of the game.

                                    ;-;

                                    versatile supp player

                                      Inb4 2k scrubs like me prioritize on getting the wolf because of laziness

                                      Gf hate me

                                        hi dota buff guys
                                        hi mom
                                        im famous

                                        Brock Hall

                                          @SirFalcon

                                          The vision tactics you described are certainly possible, but I don't see them being massively important. Spending that much gold to get an item that can be so helpful in teamfights, only to use its main draw to sit a harpy on high ground for more than six minutes seems like a waste. By the time the team has both helm and force staff the cost of wards is fairly inconsequential. Still, it's a cool trick if coordinated correctly. For instance, you could send your harpy to high ground before a push, and when you are established in the lane you can grab another creep to initiate when the area the harpy is watching is no longer a priority.

                                          I fully expect Valve to make changes to helm, but the time that it has been at the top has been valuable for people that haven't given micro much thought, and your tips are proof of both how strong the item is and how much micro can add to a players strength.

                                          Fight Machine

                                            Which ancient creep is the best for life stealer impregnation?

                                            Brock Hall

                                              @Fight Machine

                                              In terms of a vehicle for a naixbomb probably the centaur as it will stun, but all controlled units share naix's ms. You can get Ancients later so probably the dragon with his fire breath.

                                              Icecream,NoIcecream

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                                                last please

                                                fx

                                                  What trouble me the most is when morph sells hotd to get other item. If you have 300 attack damage which is very likely you can have up to 90 damage. It is even better than daedalus and mkb to some extend and the biggest upgrade is you can put on back pack. Also do wolf damage stack?

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                                                  left stroke

                                                    Is it popular for any 4 position supports to pick up HotD?

                                                    xfi Bulldog

                                                      wtf I hate chen, totally.

                                                      PIG

                                                        @fx(tilted)

                                                        People aren't building hotd on Morph and if they did, they would definitely sell it to free up an item slot. He has more than enough attack speed from Treads + Agility and he gets all the regen he needs with linkens. Hotd isn't the item for Morph.

                                                        NAG_SNUG'pa

                                                          You forgot to mention ensnare pierces spell immunity. It's really useful against jug and LS If you pick up a hotd

                                                          Rubick stole my ♥ (of Tar...

                                                            I tried to use Hill Troll Priest's heal but I don't get how it works ?
                                                            I mean I do understand how the skill works, but I've tried to set auto cast for it (in "special unit hotkeys" for "neutral creeps") and he just casts it once and... stops lol

                                                            Anung un Rama

                                                              what about the timings? the key timing and camps for farming jungle (if it is possible as you say) or the core heroes for jungle farming =( i want more info ahah, but is a good post.

                                                              SirFalcon

                                                                @Rubick
                                                                Right click the heal, like a toggle, to turn on auto heals

                                                                a big fan of vp

                                                                  Hum what about the centaur 2 sec aoe stun creep D:

                                                                  EYEDOL( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                                                                    Pick Chen:
                                                                    Get 2 SATYR TORMENTOR and Spam Hadouken at your enemy.
                                                                    Even better, 2 WILDWING RIPPER and throw tornados while your enemy try to farm.

                                                                    Lorelei

                                                                      No comment on Ancient creeps?!

                                                                      Daddy_Fucker_Jones

                                                                        This is certainly helpful for players who haven't thought of the new HotD micro meta.

                                                                        Blue Nimbus

                                                                          If you take Enchantress or Chen for a level 1 gank, try to get the zap bat, as you can pretty much kill any hero in the game at the 1 minute mark with it by yourself.

                                                                          attaquant!

                                                                            Most of good support, who understand the game will buy domi. Mostly when their carry have a great potential push ability like juggernaut, luna, sf, drow, etc. Even they dont have that, dominatior creep also can be use for gank.

                                                                            Me, mostly play safelane core almost every game buy domi for pushing potential or even stacking ancients.

                                                                            [IR] Culverin

                                                                              NERF the new ancient creeps. why they keep using their spells it shd be like all other creeps when there are 3 enemy near camp spells should be used by neutrals. cant farm these new volvo ancient creeps even with sven...

                                                                              Hi4M7

                                                                                You can autocast dominated creeps' abilities?
                                                                                ooookay