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Guilty Spark

    SPLOT PISH!

    OK BOOMERS

      SECOND

      g=o

        informative, thanks

        Frency
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          Lang Naai

            rat dota

            mid or ruin

              it's good and all, but sadly almost impossible to make a team to do smth like smoke gank splitpushing hero even on 5.5+

              FalleN-

                not good idea

                Dead btw^^

                  fuck my lifw i hate techis

                  So It Goes

                    Another good article, you guys are on a roll :D. Thanks. Would have liked more discussion of the Clinkz, like the lead photo, but that may just be me.

                    Mbeju Volador

                      rat doto best doto

                      FalleN-

                        FUCKING VALVE SHIT MATCH MAKING!i lost too many game because of noobs what happned with this shit?D whats wrong with me?I LOVE UR WIFE GABEN!

                        Smurf

                          bad idea

                          bearcat0611

                            When the enemy team let's your broodmother take a lane of racks at 20 minutes because no one bothered to stop her. Feels good

                            Poop

                              The counter to rat dota is to defend your base at all cost

                              Memann

                                All your base are belong to us.

                                TeraByte

                                  Clinkz?

                                  AdmiraL

                                    but u can't stop bulldog

                                    LimonKay

                                      Very detailed and thought out guide, thank you.

                                      mojo_jojo

                                        Nightstalkers agahnim , beastmaster & batrider rekts splitpushers.

                                        JaCK SPaRRoW

                                          what is Split push? you mean push with the illusions? lol why not just PUSH

                                          not thp

                                            great guide. best part?? alliance vs navi. greatest game of all time

                                            Lex

                                              Pick Spirit Breaker for roam = Profit.

                                              STE 8-1-8

                                                The best way to deal with split pushers in my experience is to counter push the lane they push, then start split pushing yourself and have a hero or heroes who can very quickly clear waves/units very quickly.

                                                Heroes like timbersaw can clear waves in a blink of an eye, ember can very quickly clear waves and then return to what ever lane we was in, there's also jakiro, bat rider is ok, Sven, orge magi with veil or shiva's, LC's overwhelming odds is ridiculous at the moment also she can also try kill who ever is pushing, tiny with aghs, zues, invoker, Mirana with aghs, Winter wyven makes their units work against their master and can also deal with waves.

                                                So in summery, take team fights/get kills, push back lanes, and split push yourself in order to keep the lanes pushed out.

                                                ک乇CƦ҉乇Tک

                                                  Tip for 3k doto LMFAO

                                                  Bread Mage

                                                    Jakiro is hilarious for stopping Nature's Prophet, since his treants are almost wiped out by Dual Breath + Liquid Fire (base 520 damage, treants have 550 HP). You can just pick each one off with a right click, use Ice Path for +50 damage, get an aether lens, or hit 92+ Int to finish them off entirely (creeps will also maybe smack them, but creeps are agents of chaos and can't be trusted).

                                                    Against other split pushers tho he's kinda ineffective.

                                                    pyro

                                                      Good post, made me watch the entire Ti3 game 5...
                                                      Again.

                                                      ClandestiNe

                                                        best ti ever by alliance navi

                                                        COMET

                                                          fird :)

                                                          JaCK SPaRRoW

                                                            @Gate 8-1-8 Yeah, man! That's why these articles seem all so lame. The best way to counter the other team from winning is to win yourself. And that's so clear to all infants all around the world, It makes all us dumb.

                                                            Solitude

                                                              @ANIMAL: It's splitpush because you split up your team; you don't push with 5 heroes, but have 4 heroes defending and 1 hero pushing or 3 heroes pushing 1 lane and 2 other heroes pushing the other 2 lanes etc.

                                                              In general, you need waveclear vs splitpushing. You cannot defend your towers with Omniknight, Spectre or Bane etc., you need long ranged aoe dmg spells like WW's Splinter Blast or Kotl's Illuminate. Without several heroes who can push out waves quickly, you will be playing with your back against a wall all the time.
                                                              With that ingredient, you need to make sure that you have all lanes pushed out before you start something (push, smoke, Rosh,..); send your Ember to push out bot a bit, your Timber to push out top and then let them teleport onto Mid to the rest of the team.

                                                              Besides that, always weigh out your chances: Is your team taking the rax faster than the enemy, can you teleport back in time? Can you finish the throne before they do? Who has TPs - both on your team and on their team?
                                                              If you are behind, taking an even rax trade is usually really good for you, which obviously makes it bad for you if you are ahead. Better teleport, defend, kill everyone and THEN push without taking any losses.

                                                              MCDelivery

                                                                Tinker, Furion, just... what the fuck. Sometimes it annoying if everybody is go clash and the one of shitpusher rekt the other lane.
                                                                I used to pick Spiritbreaker to anticipate it. Bounty hunter is good to deal with Tinker too. Track, Orchid, Teamwork, ez.

                                                                NoSalt Kitten

                                                                  Just got rekt by a split pushing core Meepo. Our NP and Tinker couldn't keep up in the rat and waveclear race when Meepo could BoT everywhere and ate up any attempted gank.

                                                                  Fahrenheit

                                                                    Thanks for the article! I'll translate this article for russian users on dota2.ru, hope to see more articles from you soon, they're very interesting to read.

                                                                    Dr. Banana

                                                                      A guide about splitpush and no mention of Lycan.

                                                                      Also you should do a guide about teamfighting next time.

                                                                      enb

                                                                        dealing with riki!

                                                                        stupid fuck 2000

                                                                          Not mentioning ember as a split pusher. DansGame

                                                                          Cerberus

                                                                            "There are countless ways to win a game of Dota, yet there are even more ways to lose it."

                                                                            This is logically false. The number of ways of winning and losing are exacly equal, since a way for one team to win is a way for the other team to lose.

                                                                            aikyu3 SuBi ♪

                                                                              ^ maybe or maybe not. Making mistakes is a way to lose a game; waiting opponents to make a huge mistake can be counted as a way to win game?

                                                                              [IR] Culverin

                                                                                DEAR ADMIN PLZ TELL PPL TO DONT GO OUT OF ROSH PIT WHEN WE ROSH THEY CAN SCAN THE RIVER TO SEE IF ANYONE THERE. AND OFC PPL IN RUSS MMR ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO THINK THEY CAN SCAN ROSH PIT... MEH.

                                                                                Class Prez

                                                                                  picture of clinkz yet not mentioning the Bone Fletcher One of the best split pusher Can take down towers so fast even with BD protection

                                                                                  xd

                                                                                    Beautiful Girls 2016-07-05
                                                                                    what is Split push? you mean push with the illusions? lol why not just PUSH

                                                                                    Lol seriously?? xD

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                                                                                    S_Borealis

                                                                                      Just played a miserable ranked game (https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3628455858) and lost. We had a good early game and Nyx and I got several successful ganks against the Tinker. We were ahead for most of the game, but the gradual erosion from Tinker and NP just gradually whittled down our towers. It was near-impossible for our Pugna or PA to split push themselves because they had an SB in addition to Tinker/NP. I was playing support and I felt like I had to be everywhere. Our PA was more interested in getting kills than keeping lanes pushed, and our Weaver DC'd.

                                                                                      It's such a frustrating way of losing. In a pub game it's difficult to properly coordinate smoke ganks or decide whether to counter-push or defend. Either way, they could always react quicker than us because of their heroes. I could probably have itemised better, but even so I'm not sure what else I could do.