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Celine

    So recently I have quite some interest in this masked fuck, since most of my favourite heroes either got nerfed or banned every game (ns plebs banning AM every game lul)
    Skillbuild is quite obvious, so...
    How do you guys build his items?
    I'm going to read all the suggestions and analyze them for me to use.

    Â INV MENYA LP PARTY

      idk dont overthink it, just pick a random top guide in dota, anything more isnt needed for ur mmr

      casual gamer

        pls max rift by 7 if you werent before

        armlet echo heart manta skadi/bkb

        Shou

          I get skadi before manta now. He needs the mana

          Potato Marshal

            ^^^ what JDF8 said. I've argued with a blue star about this before but definitely max rift over bolt. You can easily rift, bolt, and rift again, the low cooldown means you can constantly chase someone if they're not disabling you. 2 rifts worth of bonus damage and a bolt alone is roughly 500 damage at level 7, not to mention CK himself has one of the highest base damage and movement speeds in the game.

            Echo provides great early game kills, you can easily blow up most enemy heroes with the help of just one support, after echo you should be able to get an armlet around the time you hit 11. Heart is almost always core, it also makes things a lot easier since you can just leave armlet on forever. I'm actually not a huge fan of manta because of it's mana cost, and that you're better off getting items that help your phantasm illusions more rather than getting a few weaker illusions, it's still situationally useful assuming the enemy team doesn't have huge aoe. Skadi just makes yourself and even your illusions nearly invincible coupled with heart, get an AC if you're going for more of a push strat.

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            Dire Wolf

              I'm not a huge fan of manta either but am a huge fan of s&y. Build up is easy compare to heart which sucks ass to build. And you will be so freaking fast running around, plus the maim proc makes it that much easier for illusions to hit stuff. But going another intermediate item might be overkill with echo sabre now. What might be really good though is splitting it later for a halberd and manta once you have more stats and mana pool for manta illusions.

              I also use to build multiple bracers on him sometimes, but with echo I don't think that's needed either. Like I would go wand, treads, bracer, bracer, s&y, heart, sell bracers. They give a shitton of strength for the cost plus much needed int. I think dragon lance has been nerfed too much for CK to try it sadly.

              I also think dominator into satanic is underrated as is AC. Sure AC attack speed doesn't work on illusions but reducing enemy armor makes them hit harder. You probably wouldn't want either over heart though.

              I don't think his skillbuild is straightforward actually. When would you max chaos bolt over rift, never? And when do you get a value point in his crit?

              casual gamer

                ac is garbage sorry man

                u literally might as well get deso if ur down for buying useless shit for the meme of oneshotting peopel

                casual gamer

                  http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/chaos-knight/guides only AC you see is on utility CK and high 4k low 5k shitstains

                  Celine

                    Always thought AC is shit on CK and wondered why people build it on him
                    I mean come on illusions doesn't recieve aura buffs

                    one syllable anglo-saxon

                      has anyone tried bloodthorn/hex on him as 5th+ slot?

                      Dire Wolf

                        I guarantee you AC is more dmg after heart than skadi. Illusions won't get the raw +35 attack speed, but they get the 20 speed from the aura plus benefit from the minus armor.

                        Compare to skadi, 25 attack speed from agility and 25 more dmg. Debuffing 5 armor is going to be a hell of a lot more dps than 25 dmg.

                        Rushing ac is really bad, as a 3rd or 4th item I don't see the issue. After treads, echo, heart, seems fine.

                        casual gamer

                          20 attack speed -5 armor

                          25 attack speed 25 damage 750 hp, slow, 600 mana

                          Pippo^

                            Echo is all i know but if you can play on australia server i can suppprt you with my io, that combo is awesome

                            doc joferlyn simp

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