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doc joferlyn simp

    Hello just a friendly NS player asking a question. When am I supposed to build Skadi and Shiva's on Lich? Ice heroes + ice items = profit, amirite? I feel that Lich will look cool throwing balls of ice while a ring of ice slowly spreads around him. Of course those two items will be the only items in your inventory, but at least you look badass. Also, what are the expected timings of the items? Farming patterns are also appreciated!

    NaturalCauzes

      You should get both those items by 7 minutes and win the game by 11 mins.

      Player 175043649

        im gonna try building one on my next lich game

        Tsuna-Fro

          Nostalgic, i feel like looking at my old self.

          Mekarazium
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            UENOฅ(•ㅅ•❀)ฅ

              I prefer building armlet. Makes old man lich look more beefy http://www.dotabuff.com/players/317230300/matches?hero=lich

              烟雨花

                that luxurious item.
                aim fast game for lich.
                my core items as lich :
                -arcane boots/tranquils.
                -force staff/blink dagger
                -mekansm

                mid game 30++
                -glimmers cape
                -aghanim scepter

                long 45++
                -refresher orb
                -shiva
                -orchid/hex

                A

                  Dont forget rod of atos must need item for lich

                  doc joferlyn simp

                    Thanks for the input guys! Been trying to use this build: eqeqereqwqrwww stats r staaaaaaaaats. Typical starting build is OoV, basic sustain, maybe a Ring of Protection if I'll go Tranqs. Depending on the enemy midlaner orb-abusers/spammers such as Zeus/Huskar to name two, I'd build Tranqs. If enemies are passive/farming laners or those that just go to mid to sap exp such as Dragon Knight/Pudge, I build Phase boots and rely on my bottle to sustain while spamming my q whenever I can last hit a creep + harass the enemy mid. If I go Phase I'd ask for two pooled tangoes while purchasing a set of tangoes or a salve, or both if there's a roamer.

                    After that gank the shit out of the sidelanes while working towards my Shiva's, maybe get a Crystalys for more phys dmg output. For fights whenever ult is up. When I get those two items I'll decide if I continue to Daedalus/Skadi, or go to the more traditional build of Aghanim's if there's an illu hero or a Meepo. MoM optional if I really need more phys dmg. If the enemy team is semi-competent and start to focus on me, realizing that my ice powers are too much, I'd build a BKB.

                    If I'm left to be the initiator Shiva's then Force Staff --> Hurricane Pike and Ice armor myself.

                    The only one that needs Ice Armor is me and towers.

                    M u r d e r

                      you think OC is not a good pick for Lich?

                      doc joferlyn simp

                        OC wont heal me back with my 1.2k crits, what's the use?

                        M u r d e r

                          lower cooldowns on spells serve a similar function as refresher, you actually will get healed back a lot from your ult, you'll be able to really spam your Q, your hp/mana pools will be increased, also small boost to damage from INT on the item.

                          doc joferlyn simp

                            dude are you takin me seriously

                            BlurryBob

                              u made me laugh author

                              Stickman

                                http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2445768157

                                In a match like this, why not? He didn't go for Skadi though, what a shame.

                                Soggy Coochie Enthusiast

                                  dude are you takin me seriously

                                  Kek a doodle doo