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EtoroAbasi

    5.6k main doing smurf.

    First 30 Matches on unranked pub.

    Winrate 73.3%, 24 won 6 lost, average kda 8.81

    Yasp estimate 4.7k, played against highest 6.2k mmr solo in unranked.

    First ranked 4.95k mmr average, highest 4973
    lost, and i had highest kill and hero dmg
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2386795286

    Second match straight drop to 4.15k average mmr. The swing is so high.

    Won second. stomp

    Third match, 4.2k average, won, stomp.

    4th match, 4.35k average, lost. Highest kda and hero dmg in game and kills.

    5th match-8th match, all won, 4.3-4.4k average, me being TBD highest.

    9th match, lost, 4 dogshit teammates, 4.4k average.

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2387740842

    10th match, despite losing in 9th match, my 10th is 4.55k average.

    won, stomp.

    in the end 4583 mmr solo.

    EtoroAbasi

      from this experiment we can see valve seems to cap it at 4999 mmr and will only place u in the bracket if u stomp the first match provided your hidden mmr before first rank is 4.9-5k.

      if u fail to win and stomp, they drop you directly to 4k and adjust there.

      they want to prevent account sellings i guess. if its too easy to calibrate 5k it will cause many problems obviously.

      Kobby

        So how came some 6200mmr guy, posted about a month ago, that he had a match where a TBD was highest mmr... !?

        Giff me Wingman

          because of abuse in normal bracket

          TripleSteal-

            @kobby
            the first calibration game is played on the level of your current hidden mmr, that can be way above 5k. however, in the 2nd match u r put to 4ks.

            EtoroAbasi

              u can have TBD in more than 5k averages.
              however, towards end of calibration u will go down to 4.5-4.9k

              the cap is there.

              twitch.tv/afeect

                30 nmm games and u can play ranked??? what level do u need to be able to queue ranked? it tells me 50, but I'm sure u aint lvl 50 right?

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                KUKULAMIN KA BUT THE K IS...

                  Yep my tb smurf is currently at 4.7k average [yasp] aswell, too lazy to calibrate at the moment D:

                  weeeeeeeeeeeeee

                    Ye, it seems calibrating over 5k is long over.

                    ASSESS Product

                      I found a lot lvl 7 tbd in 2.5k avg mmr (dota lvl). So, im sure their trophy lvl is not lvl 50 yet.

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                      Mandalorian

                        Yeah, you can play party ranked with 30 games, solo at Trophy lvl 50. And 5k is most surely the cap.

                        EtoroAbasi

                          no more 5k i can confirm.

                          Feed

                            trophy lvl 27 and I can solo rank now .How is that so?

                            Standout.XsamPaul

                              how can u smurf without being vhs? thats already a given or a free 4k mmr if u smurf

                              shag bro

                                @B L U E
                                Thats because your account was created before the introduction of lv50 trophy level to play ranked

                                Wafgar

                                  my friend first match calibrating had 4.8k avg mmr and won
                                  then the next 2-4 match become 3.6k avg , that's 1.2k swing i dunno how this things works lmao

                                  Feed

                                    Nope @vinDicate .
                                    My first account was hacked two years ago and I had to create another email thus, this account.
                                    I wonder how

                                    Sir

                                      this prochick got 4.5+k!!

                                      LordG1o

                                        Hi master smurf! :D How can i have a vh bracket in my first game? my main account is 5.2k only but when i try to smurf i get first game like rampage or 30+ kills still blank and i get the vh in like 4-6 games. Can you please teach me master?

                                        dunce

                                          U make new account and tick that u have played dota 2 before

                                          efextoide

                                            good experiment to be honest, if u aren't lucky, u can't get 4.9 =(

                                            M1YONG PAPLO

                                              this guy got 4.5k like a boss

                                              M1YONG PAPLO

                                                how u get solo mmr when ure only level 22 trophy?

                                                Ayaneru   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                                                  Damn you play too good. I wonder whats your winrate if you play my account (3.4k mmr) in 20 matches. Hehe

                                                  Player 175043649

                                                    make riki guide u fuck

                                                    mina

                                                      On some guys asking when you can play rank match:
                                                      You need to have atleast 25 matches history on your
                                                      account... and their it is you unlocked the rank find match button..then click it... but suddenly their will be a message saying how many more matches needed

                                                      大盜 ` 韓不助

                                                        yeah ! my smurf get higher calibration mmr :3

                                                        eyesfrog

                                                          make riki guide u fuck

                                                          pumpkintruce

                                                            Dude how do u got in to vhs in the beginning match itself ? I too stomped my first match but its normal skill

                                                            ASSESS Product

                                                              You still didnt get hs after frst 5 matches. I have bad news for you.

                                                              イゼッタ

                                                                Can I reach 4k with my current stats? Managed to stomp my first ranked match with an average of 3.4K

                                                                4k Player

                                                                  ^

                                                                  sadly no.. you'll get 3.6 max.. but dont worry u will have a 3k account.

                                                                  pumpkintruce

                                                                    why this guy(who posted this thread) got vhs in his first match and I didn't ? I too stomped like him. Pls tell me things I need to consider

                                                                    Itoro

                                                                      i dont write riki guides. if u wan u can just check here, kappa

                                                                      Siiilver Surfffeeer

                                                                        @aFeect

                                                                        me too 32 normal games after that I jumped to ranked games :) that was the time when they released the battle pass but they fix the bug now :)

                                                                        dunce

                                                                          so according to yasp it was 4.6k and first ranked match was 4.2k or 4.3k and calibrated 4.6k, 1 mmr higher than main
                                                                          won 6/10
                                                                          http://www.dotabuff.com/players/312654300

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                                                                          The ItaJob

                                                                            You ruin game experience to others for a stupid test!Fuck u and your smurf,cancer of this game.

                                                                            ambien daisy duck

                                                                              Don't worry The ItaJob, he won't get matched against you, only 4k+

                                                                              Itoro

                                                                                get gud and u will meet me

                                                                                Izuku~

                                                                                  was the calibration bug fixed?

                                                                                  Livin' Real Good

                                                                                    Means you belong in 4K, not 5K. Kappa

                                                                                    EtoroAbasi

                                                                                      cal u have 86% winrate and still in normal bracket? how is that possible?

                                                                                      Izuku~

                                                                                        I am playing on my friend's 1k account that is not registered to dotabuff thus the winrate and little games played (prob 400 games already in real).. I just play here for fun and try to prove to him (and possibly other people here) that u can consistently win games if the bracket is lower than ur real mmr

                                                                                        Izuku~

                                                                                          I have a new smurf but it is the first time I didnt get vhs on 2nd game.. dunno if api problem or just a 3.8k-4k account.. what can u say http://www.dotabuff.com/players/347024726

                                                                                          LIZA SOBERANO

                                                                                            Cal in order to get very high skill , u should party with 4k friends or just do it by yourself only .??

                                                                                            Izuku~

                                                                                              I never played with friends xD I dont have friends :( DAMN IT T_T

                                                                                              Golgotha (BudiPametan)

                                                                                                I calibrated solo 4950. Don't think you can get over 5k considering I had stomped 7 out of 10 with 700+ gpm/kda (sven/meepo in calib games).

                                                                                                IWN

                                                                                                  This account is smurf too, can someone predict my mmr :D lol!

                                                                                                  Izuku~

                                                                                                    dont see the logic Golgotha.. what if somebody stomps 10/10 oh his games with 800+ gpm/kda xD

                                                                                                    Golgotha (BudiPametan)

                                                                                                      They'll calibrate at 5k? :)

                                                                                                      LIZA SOBERANO

                                                                                                        I played with friends 4k+ then i got vhs on that games then i play solo then i got unknown skill. Should i continue playing with them ?? In order to get vhs or not.