General DiscussionWhat's your goal when it comes to Dota? Do you actually enjoy this ga...

im trying to l2p atm, but it doesnt go that well.
i enjoy the game tho, without any doubts, nothing to complain about.

My short term goal is to get comfortable with a roster of 5 or so heroes and then calibrate around 3k and spam up to 4k. And of course, to have fun along the way.
My long term goal is to reach 5k and find a team of similarly skilled individuals to participate in scrims and amateur leagues with.

Hey! Just came back onto the forums to see how it was going. I decided to share my thoughts.

I used too think I was having "fun" when playing Dota; yet without the game, I seem to be enjoying life outside of the game more. This is more of a personal thing, but I stopped having fun playing Dota. It felt like a chore to play the game and I just didn't see continuing to play as being beneficial so I stopped and I feel a lot better.

Edit: What's up with this checkbox thing?

in my first 5000 games i played to enjoy, now i sacrifice my MMRs by ruining games if i see a rustard in my team. even if i have to go to sub 500 mmr, i am going to make at least some rustards learn that they shouldnt search game in europe west

That's new thing, Salza.

Well yeah. I agree. I also feel that when I don't play Dota I see things about life differently. I can aproach real life problems better, and fix them faster.

I can archive some RELEVANT things. I actually work on myself as a person only when I'm NOT playing this game.

Question is: Dota is competitive game, but should you play this game if you don't have fun playing it, but you have FUN taking some artifical MMR from other players...

What does it say? Taking MMR is not realted to Dota only, there's rating for several games. Then again, if you have FUN taking MMR playing the game you like, does it mean you also have fun but you don't realise it?

huh.

I specifically created this account so I could have fun playing dota again.

I random every game that isn't All Random already, I play with 1k-2k friends, I play silly modes like ARDM (though since Reborn was implemented, I haven't been able to) and AD as well as custom games like Overthrow.

Ranked is almost something you work for, AKA, not fun and pointless unless you make some profit out of it somehow.

Coinditentally or not, I also play Dota a lot less often now and it's even more fun because of it. No more addiction and rage.

To become a better player trought enjoying the game but most of the time you cant have both! Its like 3/10 matches are fun and rest are you know what...

To escape reality.

To make people mad

To feel like I accomplished something hard. Even though I'm a 1k scrub, I feel really satisfied with ending any close game. Dota is actually hard, and doing well is something to be proud of and be excited about. (Just don't tell non-Dota players that, you'll look like a hopeless nerd.)

when I played dota 1 without this "MMR" things, I played dota for hours for only fun. like ?-_- said, to "escape reality".
But once I moved to dota 2, I slowly changed goal to get high MMR (though I have no MMR yet).....
*sigh*
dota much more fun when we play only for fun, not for MMR....

to become hokage someday

but nah i suppose to get to 5k or some sort of "respectable" mmr would be a measurable goal..

every once in a while i remember that i am a potato scrub and it will take me years to do it so I just have fun and try to make better doto decisions in the process :')

this is the post im looking for. really op, i dunno why ppl getting so mad at small mistakes, then sometimes they fighting about wanting mid, carry, or solo line so im ended being a support, roamer, or a jungler. im always trying to be polite but "these guy" (dota player) always shouting they are pro players and blame the whole team with angry tone, caps and alien language. wheres the fun, so why the play dota whos called a "game" ?
*hufft*
and u know guys, im still enjoy the game cuz im already get the fun seeing retards fighting each other.

I think an ultra competitive game like Dota is only truly fun for the first few hundred games while you are still overwhelmed with things to learn. Once you get to a certain point though it becomes more like a openly accessible sport that everyone around you gets equally passionate, salty and angry about. To make it worse, internet anonymity ensures that a toxic environment will always be there - I mean who the actual fuck here will tell someone to go kill themselves irl? If you told me that irl I'd drop you like a sack of shit tbh.

I have fought with irl friends many times on Dota. I have cursed so loud Im sure my neighbors hate me, and it feels like an argument with a team mate or enemy is looming around ever corner. Its a stressful experience really, yet it is one unparalleled by any other game.

I have had a pretty horrible 3 weeks of dota, and Im finding myself asking these same questions OP. Im not a great player, and I dont see the point of getting good either, I mean its a fucking game, not like it can really benefit anything irl.

I dont know anymore, maybe I just need a break, or maybe I should just stop right here before I invest another thousand+ hours into this toxic cesspool.

They key is to get relaxed and take DotA as what it is - a game. You probably won't ever become a professional, which imho isn't a desirable job to begin with.

Most importantly, don't define the value of yourself or others by MMR - a common thing one can witness in the game, on Dotabuff and generally in all competitve games, but still utterly pathetic. That doesn't mean you can't focus on becoming a better player; these are two very different things.
If someone in the game starts spitting toxic bullshit, restrict your natural habit of starting an argument with him. Instead, mute him, stay concentrated and still have a chance to win this shit, maybe advise the others to do the same.
If someone on a forum tries to invalidate your statements because of a lower MMR (yeah, some ppl here may feel addressed now), don't feed the troll and hope that he somewhere down the road grows up (or gets diarrhea, whatever suits your taste).

You don't have to become a Zen master and attain complete inner peace, but keeping these small things in mind should increase the fun you can draw out of competitive games.

I took a break in the past weekend. Actually my girlfriend seems to be a nice person.

i want to be the messi of dota

I honestly consider Dota more as a sport than an actual game

If I'm not having fun with the moronic salt ingots I get queued with honestly t wasnt as bad compared to my experience with high school gym classes

I'm ok with people who do stupid things, I do stupid things as well 24/7, no need to make them feel bad even though they are as arrogant as shit to admit they did wrong

I still dream of being in the top, I believe I can be something in this game but I have to improve a ot to do so. Of course, playing Dota here is not free - I spend a lot of money to play decent Dota. Its not what the game experience that makes me happy, its knowing that I am a step closer to my big dream

Np copy pasterino please

i only enjoy the game when i play with megapenis

I enjoy recking kids. When kids get rekt i know it was a good day and i always enjoy that. When you reck kids you also get mmr which is a good motivation to reck even more kids.

I enjoy recking kids. When kids get rekt i know it was a good day.

My goal is to do better in the laning phase and the mid game, while avoiding getting as tilited as i normally do

To think less and drown my sorrows

Deadweight, is this why you don't play solo ranked? :D

im trying to learn many heroes in ranked atm, once i do that probably try to get high mmr.

also i like to play dotse

well i freaking skipped 2 days of work just because of dota... dang!

my goal is to flame the team and feed.

These threads pop up in every competitive hobby. They relate everything wrong in their life to that hobby. If I wasn't playing dota I would get laid every day ect. Dota is not the problem you are. You don't have to play a ridiculous amount of games nor watch a ridiculous amount of anime nor YouTube etc. I guarantee if these same people crying about how little fun they had where winning every game they would miraculously start having fun again.

I can finally confirm 4k players are barely adolescent and Triplefucking-steal is an 11 year old Russian boy who shows kid dick to Western European pedophiles

4k player here, can confirm

4k player here, can confirm

triplesteal here, can confirm

get to 2k mmr ;_; my ultimate dream is to see the light of 3.2k or very high skill... sigh. i'm not having fun any more, recently i've become so terrible and salty to all my teammates and i'm just flaming everyone, i'm so depressed, someone help me

These threads pop up in every competitive hobby. They relate everything wrong in their life to that hobby. If I wasn't playing dota I would get laid every day ect. Dota is not the problem you are. You don't have to play a ridiculous amount of games nor watch a ridiculous amount of anime nor YouTube etc. I guarantee if these same people crying about how little fun they had where winning every game they would miraculously start having fun again.
- Sampson

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Seriously, this, people need to shut the fuck up, everything is a form of escapism.
I can still have a beautiful girlfriend, STILL WORK OUT, STILL PLAY GUITAR, STILL DRAW, STILL HAVE A JOB THAT I ACTUALLY ENJOY AND GET PAYED WELL, and still go back to school all while playing Defense of the Ancients 2, a video game. The only reason Dota is stressful to you is because YOU, YOU, NOT DOTA, YOU (keyword YOU) choose to play a million tilt games, YOU choose to hate everyone on your team, even if they are a piece of shit, just mute them, because YOU choose to react in a such a way. ALL ACTION IS REACTION just like Ember Spirit says.

I see no difference from playing Dota 2 inside all day with your friends, or skateboarding all day outside with your friends, I did both, I would know. If you enjoy it, why stop? If you don't enjoy it anymore, no need to make big spectacle of it, or a thread of an internet forum, NO ONE CARES if you leave a game, or forums, believe me.

Just find a balance, like night and day. Peace and love though, fuck shit teammates. O_O erjgbrhjbgrhjebg Just when I saw 4K Q.Q I'm back, but no, i'll be back O_O You can count on it.
This game is fucking fun when you mute everyone and play your favorite song, and blast your gaming headphones, sure.

i dont know how solo queueing ranked games can be fun after the first hundred or so tries. Playing for just MMR is stupid though, if the only goal is to have high MMR..

I can work 45 hrs a week x 20/hr after taxes and thats with an unskilled labor job, so about $900 USD in a week.

For $900 you can buy like a 7k MMR account and ta-da you have the MMRs in just a single week!

Honestly, just find a stack of ppl and play 4 fun. When matchmaking is full retard i usually switch to diff. games, SMITE is a nice change, and recently ive played a lot of HotS. CSGO is alright if you want to do FPS, altough you gotta spend a little money for that game.

The most fun I have playing dota is getting shit faced drunk and playing pure yolo dota n losing while flaming ppl playing 10x better than me

Shred - nah, i just like playing parties way more than solo. Btw - how's your solo climbing going? :D

Amazing, I went from 3500 to 3300! Doing amazing job so far mate.

what the actual fuck

Amazing, I went from 3800 to 3500! Doing great job so far man..

Deadweight I cant wait for your stack to get back, miss it :(

Ofc you miss it. You miss the smell of free mmr, admit it! :D

My buddy RageZeus is somewhere in Spain for a month or sth like that, the stack is fuckin dead :O

My goal is to finish challenges.

Yo shred damnn alright man,

At the end of the day, our goal should always to find happiness in dotes :]

Im sure everyone will have bad games but still find something to make u smile in dat game, like making a youtube play or making fancy plays or even talk smack in all chat :]

Winning or losing, always find that simple moments in the game that will bring ya happiness :D

Once it used to be fun
Then it got frustrating
It still is

Story of every dotard who didn't get into pro scene or 7k ever

@Deadweight Ha! Dont be so harsh druze bre! :D

MMR is just a bonus but I miss the organisation, team play, team rage, everything really and all those epic moments dumpstering other stacks together.. Then we wait for him and reborn our glorious the mighty will fall stack! :P ^_^

"Good luck, have fun."

i used to be a "typical SEA player" when ranked first came out then i realized that even tho i rise up im never getting into pro scene anyway

so theres nothing different between a 2ker and 4ker, in the end of all that skill gap we both just play for mmr anyway so where's the sense in stressing urself to get higher mmr when things dont change?

so i mostly play with friends now, sure getting better at the game is nice, but having fun with ur stacks to relieve real life stress (come on, 10 hrs school is stressing even tho u study stupid ez shit) is nicer

I'd say anything over 5.5k equates to a waste of your time. Because at that point, you've dumped enough hours into DotA for it to be no longer considered a hobby and have probably spent more time than you have at an actual career path to achieve the understanding and experience necessary to consistently play at that level.