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MARLAN

    I wanna learn how to play shadow friend.

    Any advice for mid/carry?

    I'm 5k so I know the basics. Looking for all the efficiency tips/etc that sf spammers learn.

    Sexo Meister

      If u get arcana + deso hand u unconciously get better with the hero

      Pls dont kill this thread i wanna know also

      2H

        get level 3 fast,

        and look for what your team need, tank or dps dealers

        BenaoLifedancer

          I'd give my input but I don't play the avg sf style..

          Phantom.Pata

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2zjhr1giYc
            old video but could help imo, idk

            nnizh13

              I have 300+ games with SF.
              At the begining you are one of the weakest hero in the game, terrible base damage and no spell, so you need to buy stats for starting items. There are two popular starting items. 1) wraith band and two branches 2) stick. in both situations you need 2 shared tangos and try to get bounty rune.
              Laning try to get as many last hits/denies as you can and play passive before lvl 3, after you get lvl and some souls you should start dominating lane, try to deny and last hit every creep, Now you have to to harass enemy and force him out of the lane, it is easy if you dual raze w/e him and auto-atack, but the most important think while playing on SF is that you are so squishy and vulnarable to ganks so always watch the mini-map, if supports are missing just go farm/stack jungle.
              Matchups
              QOP
              laning againt qop is hard, she has 65 damage with null tulisman and you have 49 with wraith band, so good qops will deny and last hit every creep, so pro players always skill razes at lvl 1 against qop. Always try not to be in range of shadow strike before lvl 3. once you are lvl 3 you can punish him if he blinks to shadow strike you, you have to q/w raze him and when she retreats use long range raze she is dead. lvl 3 to lvl 6 you are ok to 1 vs 1 her, but if someone ganks you are 100% dead. again play safe and try to stack/farm jungle while farming lane.
              TA
              TA is nightmare for any sf player with refraction she can out last hit you and you can not harass her because of refraction. if you see enemy has ta never pick sf. This is the worst matchup for sf.
              it is also very hard to lane against wr, invoker q/e, tinker.
              Item builds
              There are many item builds for sf. after bottle and boots you first item choices are mek/blink/shadow blade/S&Y. Almost in all games i get one of these as first big item. i dont like mek in pubs because people dont stack as 5 at min 14 and push. Most of the time i buy blink/shadow blade. When i get this i try to gank and get kills, then push towers. SF is one of the best flash-farmer, but he falls of in late game so try to finish game before 40 mins. thats it
              ///////////IF SOMEONE ASKS FOR GANK BEFORE 15 min JUST MUTE HIM AND PLAY YOUR GAME. COMPETETIVE SF PLAYERS NEVER GANK BEFORE 9/10/11 lvl and BLINK/SHADOW BLADE, BUT CARRY A TP AND HELP THEM IF ENEMY DIVES..

              DC.MASON

                If you want some advices from 4k scrub..

                WonderWaiter

                  fuck this hero :P

                  Livin' Real Good

                    Do what Joyboy said, that's the quickest way to win, same thing if you get the Storm Spirit immortal that gives you a new ultimate effect, you just play better.

                    BenaoLifedancer

                      300 gamers with sf is nothing. I should have like 5k+ (being modest)

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                      ΙγrιΙΙνεmροs crιsτεναηιsh...

                        ^dota 1 is nothing, dota 2 sf is a completely different thing

                        Livin' Real Good

                          eeeeeeeeeeee, pewpew*

                          Dota 2 confirmed SUPERIOR. Kappa

                          Livin' Real Good

                            1000+ SF guy above me, dang.

                            saving private RTZ

                              how exactly is dota 2 sf completely different thing?

                              14

                                Not SF player, but when you stack camps - stack big one with rightlick & medium one with raze, so u get 2 camps stacked at the same time. I kinda disagree about SF vs TA matchup. She can't do much vs you if u just raze every creep wave & retreat. Of course if ur not close to tower when she is 6, ur pretty much dead. If she is 6 it's good to have a sentry ward in mid to get rid of traps, so u can play more agressivly. I think good SFs wins mid vs TA, but you need to be very good. I think RTZ (or was it sumail) when played as SF vs TA had like 60lh & 30denies in TI5. The problem is that TA is just great vs SF outside of laning stage & after laning stage your food to her.

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                                Oldman

                                  tbh SF is one of the eziest carries to gank. Rarly seen on ranked. If team is ok, hes punished hard from begining. Especially by roaming earth shaker.

                                  BenaoLifedancer

                                    rarely seen in ranked ---> normal skill comment