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Dota 2 Reborn Beta - TrueSight Status in General Discussion
Camcorder

    As I'm sure you've heard, the Dota 2 Reborn beta is now available! I wanted to quickly post a note with information about what that means for Dotabuff, and specifically for TrueSight. This mostly effects Dotabuff Plus customers, but will also be important to people who care about seeing TrueSight for Esports or pro player matches.

    During the beta, you will be able to play two versions of Dota 2: the original (Source 1), and Reborn (Source 2 beta). TrueSight will continue to analyze your original (Source 1) matches as it always has, however there will be a delay before we can analyze Source 2 matches.

    The Source 2 engine has been changed in major ways and we will need to overcome a number of obstacles before we can accurately parse the new replay format. That's the bad news, but there's some good news too:

    - This is our top priority. We're working around the clock to analyze the new file format and build a working replay parser.

    - Our efforts are completely open source. This isn't the kind of thing that we believe should be kept behind closed doors, and we're contributing all of our efforts back to the community. You can find our Source 2 replay parser on Github at https://github.com/dotabuff/manta

    - Between now and when we release a major update to TrueSight capable of parsing Source 2 replays, we'll be archiving the replay for every match that you play. When the TrueSight update is released, we'll go back and parse all of those matches.

    Thank you for your support and understanding while we work through this period of transition. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

    ふたなりKato3y

      Thanks for your work! Litteraly saving Dota 2.

      gu3st

        I wish I knew more Go to be able to commit useful commits (other than simple readme changes :p)

        Squirrel Overlord

          Jason, thank you for being amazing!

          Tiger Millionaire

            Thanks for the great work! Glad to hear you've got this in hand.

            МОМ

              thank you

              Epic Sax Guy

                Thanks for all the hard work!

                Zick-Zack
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                    Amister

                      work harder boyz

                      Metallicize

                        :laugh:

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                        Camcorder

                          Work on this actively continues. It's a difficult project due to the cryptic and unknown nature of the replay file format. We're making progress but can't yet offer a firm estimate on when we'll be able to fully parse all Source 2 matches.

                          Ashiataka

                            How much of the replay file are you able to parse at the moment?

                            Wolverine

                              couldn't open file replays/1639781746.dem hlp me with this gys ...

                              kokwhynoob

                                may i know this picture is it make by true human model form?

                                if yes may you show us whose is she?

                                TripleSteal-

                                  @kokwhynoob
                                  dont confuse dotabuff staff to reborn dota developers, they are (probably) different people
                                  also u can look for this pic somewhere on deviantart and ask ppl there

                                  Yoshi

                                    keep up the good work dotabuff :)

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                                    najjjets

                                      nice one

                                      Born

                                        Btw that picture is a disaster. Potm was always an elf.

                                        Jopi

                                          My Firefox still commits suicide, when I open the "Trends" Tab :D

                                          Jordan

                                            Thank you for making it Open Source and letting us help you. Oh you work with GO, nice nice :)

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                                            Artfaal

                                              Hi! Have some news about time, when it will be finished?
                                              Seems, no point paid for "Plus", if i play only in Reborn =( Cos analyze need as soon, as possible. No reason look at this games in future...

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                                              Ele

                                                Same, I'm interested at least in an ETA when Source 2 replays will be available for True Sight. I mostly play in Reborn nowadays, and True Sight is one of the most useful features for me that comes with Plus subscription. I undestand it requires a lot of effort, to create a working parser from scratch, but I'd really love some ETA :)

                                                Camcorder

                                                  We're still working on making TrueSight compatible with Reborn. We know that you're enjoying playing Reborn and we have a plan in place to get things working ASAP.

                                                  - First, we're continuing to save all of your replays to be analyzed once TrueSight is able to parse Source 2 replays. As long as you're a Plus subscriber, all of your matches will eventually get parsed. We have a lot of new features coming that depend on this data, so it's important to make sure these matches get analyzed.

                                                  - Work continues to decipher all of the data structures in the new replay. This work is unpredictable and we can't offer an ETA for it.

                                                  - At the same time, we're going to analyze your matches using the data that we have managed to get from the new replays (which is quite a lot). This will offer most of the features you've come to expect from TrueSight in a short timeframe, and we'll continue to add features as we extract more data from the replays.

                                                  - Eventually, once all data structures in the Reborn replays have been deciphered, we'll re-analyze ALL of your matches to make sure they all have complete and accurate information. Again, this is very important for new Plus features we have in development.

                                                  Thank you for your continued patience during this difficult transition. We understand that Plus feels underwhelming for people playing Reborn and we're working hard to meet and exceed your expectations here.

                                                  Artfaal

                                                    Jason, thanks for the answer. We will be patient! :) Feels, it will be great update.

                                                    Ash

                                                      did you try to ask valve for file info?

                                                      Soth02

                                                        Is Truesight broken right now for Dota 2 main client? All of my queued games are stuck in the "analyzing" phase.

                                                        ex: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1701423915

                                                        note, I play Ability Draft 95% of the time.

                                                        Player 95251565

                                                          I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't parse unsignificant matches for now.

                                                          Soth02

                                                            why is that? I paid money for TrueSight specifically. I haven't gotten a reply in forum/email yet.

                                                            Willy in ur Wonka

                                                              Hi! Where can I make suggestion for improvements?

                                                              Firstly,
                                                              I really like the way the activity information is displayed (Bigger/Smaller circles for higher/lower level of activity, yellow/red for positive/negative) but is there anyway of having the same feature but more focused/relevant to how well the day went for you (win-lose ratio)?

                                                              I.e - Bigger circle for high win/lose ratio and color for more wins/losses

                                                              Secondly,
                                                              I want to talk about the color blind mode, I can understand that these are for people who have color deficiencies; I myself am one.
                                                              (My problem: on the "ACTIVITY BY DAY OF WEEK" section, the colors of (Sunday-Monday and Tuesday-Wednesday) look almost similar to me)

                                                              People with color deficiencies struggle to distinguish between shades of color; i.e. - Pink and Red; or Yellow and Green; or Blue and Purple. I think to solve this problem, the bars should alternate between cold and warm colors across the board.

                                                              On the contrary, around 10% of the male population is Red-Green color blind so well played on the Activity section!

                                                              Thirdly,
                                                              while I was typing this whole post, the spelling check is American English so it isn't very British English friendly; what are the chances of you providing this option?

                                                              i.e. - at the moment there's only "[American flag]English(English)" maybe have 2 English options; (U.S. English) and (U.K. English)...

                                                              If you read this far, thanks;
                                                              If you read properly, kudos to you!
                                                              I hope you consider my concern.

                                                              Soth02

                                                                Is Truesight broken right now for Dota 2 main client? All of my queued games are stuck in the "analyzing" phase.

                                                                ex: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1701423915

                                                                note, I play Ability Draft 95% of the time.

                                                                Camcorder

                                                                  Sorry, but TrueSight is unable to parse AD matches. That's a conscious choice that we made for a few reasons:

                                                                  - Supporting AD matches would add a lot of complexity to an already difficult problem.
                                                                  - It would take a lot of engineering time to benefit a very small number of users
                                                                  - We're currently focused on other efforts, such as Reborn replay parsing and some exciting new features.

                                                                  I won't rule it out for the future, but it's not something on the roadmap right now.

                                                                  Soth02

                                                                    Ah kk, thanks for the reply.

                                                                    Ʈɑϯƙʊℓƙiđ

                                                                      My All Picks today are all in Analyzing right now. US East and West. Playing in Main client. Please fix. Too bad Reborn not up yet. I love the graphics in source 2. You guys rock. Just did an year subscription for the support even though I might not use all data.

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                                                                      Camcorder

                                                                        We've released TrueSight support for Source 2.

                                                                        Please read the announcement: http://www.dotabuff.com/blog/2015-08-24-truesight-reborn-now-supporting-source-2

                                                                        We have a new feedback thread: http://www.dotabuff.com/topics/2015-08-24-truesight--reborn-feedback-thread