^ That and in low mmr people love their Str heros. Plus defending highground is great. (Not a great timber player but likes the hero)
Bloodseeker. Depends what your mmr is though i guess.... im low 4k so its not likely going to work 5k+.
Climbed 950 mmr this month and im top 92% erfor him.
Prefer mid over jungle but i do jungle if i have to..... if im jungle i up the chick at 3 min and by early wards.
antimage ))))))
first pick him until you forget there are heroes other than meepo, bloodseeker, silencer, disruptor
then win because if you execute well the rape train has no brakes anyway
Well im pretty sur i could climb up to 4.5k by just spamming necro/dazzle/aba/omni. Healing heroes if you have good map awareness and always have a tp can fuck up their early ganks/diving to secure lategame. I just dont like to spam the same heroes xD
nice to finally realize timber is good to boost mmr, thank you guys for this knowledge
for some reason I was sure timbersaw is punished by all the meta heroes and therefore is weak atm
U wanna some mmr ? play meepoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i start learning meepo 3 weeks ago and i was 1800 mmr now im 3.5k and i will be 4 - 4.5 in 2 week
i only play meepo in hard games i only may not pick meepo vs troll or pa meepo can counter all of his counters if u play him well
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/161243141/matches?date=&hero=&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=ranked_matchmaking&game_mode=®ion=&faction=&duration=&enjoyment=any
how can u be 3.5 k mmr and have no high skill ranked games in match history?
"now im 3.5k and i will be 4 - 4.5 in 2 week" Oh you poor naive boy, you've never been in 4K have you.
@FyyQ "I am 4600, you're just whining" - huskar2015
people should value
NOT BEING FUCKING RETARDED AND FUCKING AWFUL AT DOTA
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MMR E-peen
but sadly that's not the case
no wonder I keep seeing these 5500 - 6500 mmr players who are so fucking bad at this game
I mean I'll concede 7k players are an entirely different category altogether (except maybe a few earth/meepo spammers) but dear lord, sometimes you wonder how these people aren't 4k cuz they certainly play like it sometimes
TAKI isn't a good PL
Typhox isn't a good OD
You're not an ubermensch making $100k per year while still playing 10 hours of dota per day while accusing other people of being minimum wage earners (chances are, you both work at Mickey D's or some fast food/service chain store)
Stop deluding yourselves you fucking imbeciles, just play the game and learn from mistakes to improve instead of looking for shortcuts.
Imagine how much more enjoyable matchmaking would be if people knew how to play a variety of heroes at a particular skill level instead of demanding mid/carry every single match.
@havoc
xaxaxaaxxaxaxaxaaxx this 4.6k only in his dreams retard broke my 6 winstreak lastnight....
good pick huskar/ hepful/no afk/ez lose -huskar2015
oh oh oh u fuc***ers Created new account and u think u are pro
specially u bitc* FYYQINGKÖNIG
im sure that u played milion games in 2k mmr and then u said wut the fak why i cant boost this mmr oh i know wut should i do im going to make new account yeah bitc* then i will do some hero damage and stay back in fights all the time to get high KDA yeah im a genius or i can do a easier shit i can barrow some money from my sweet dady and i buy new shity high mmr account :))) POOP
Only 400 matches on your dotabuff telling me im right
But im not Look like u ill do it like a man i started from 1580 And i will be 7k at least
Oh Shame On You ...
I think what people need to realize that a lot of people that gain a lot of MMR using Meta heroes, Meepo, or Earth Spirit are basically faking skill that simply has allowed them to reach a bracket previously unobtainable at their current playing level.
I have played with a few people who have gotten like +500 playing endless meta heroes and then wound up having to do something else and have just been an embarrassment to the bracket their inflated rating has put them in. Meta heroes come and go. Abusing broken heroes won't help you get better at a game .
Its like weight training where you find a trick to effortlessly lifting a ton a weight. Sure, looks cool and you can tell friends about it but it hasn't helped strengthen you overall as you have done the lifting but not taken to effort and pain to legitimately make it there.
In closing. Meta heroes come and go, support heroes will always be relevant in every patch. Learn to make it as a support and you can make it work anywhere.
i belive thats not right !!!
when ur team is better at all u will win ofc
but when ur team is equal with enemy or lower ur team need something that gives advantage versus enemy just like meepo - earth spirit or anything that u are really really good with it like invoker !
just look most successful players in mmr like wagamama (templar assasin) http://www.dotabuff.com/players/32995405
W33 - Meepo http://www.dotabuff.com/players/86700461
d3vilish - meepo http://www.dotabuff.com/players/118156788
Chessie - mid heros like invoker puck tinker ember http://www.dotabuff.com/players/71328475
and ...
@*-:-*
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1) i play dota since 2004-5 my games of dota 1 are above million
2) i started dota 2 after 1st TI and my old main account had 550 games:) i spammed invoker for about 500 games calibrated 4.5k mmr ( without even know what 10 calibrated games are) still acc reached 5.2k mmr before smurf fashion started to rise on dota 2
3)my brain usage in this game is as high as in my real life thats why i can play good dota and be cool in my real life at the same time
4)since i started doto from my 1st old main acc i mentioned above^ i was playing for fun with irl friends still 500 games invoker vh skill 60% winrate 5kda :))) even if all games i went refresher and 90% of the time E-Q cause i wanted fun ;)
5) i would have stop playing dota if my 1st game on every smurf i have was Normal or High skill. i find this embarassing:)
6) people from here have played with me and still playing or trust me when they need some help with their games
7) im sorry to dissapoing you little 2k games normal skill 56% 2kda meepo player. but...... u shouldnt even dare to type my name and talk to me without knowing who am i.
8) rekt
^ i like trolls but seriously i was thinking of that atm
i dont even have 1500 games with ALL my accounts but some people are just bad
its aprils fools day but i dont like im rudabawy
axaxaxaxaxaxxa people are strange and rude sometimes
>relax ur doing fine:)
They are also there cause they are actually good, you're not good. They are good meepo players + a myriad of others a lot of them not based on the current or past metas. I do not in anyway value players who ride meta to meta picking the overbuffed or strong heroes of that patch to constantly maintain an already inflated rating.
"In closing. Meta heroes come and go, support heroes will always be relevant in every patch. Learn to make it as a support and you can make it work anywhere." -Havoc
And if your carry is bad? What do you do then?
Suck it up. There will always be baddies, and people will always have bad games. I have played horrible games, and played well in games where team mate performed badly but don't bother to make post like "Why do I get..." or "What do you do when..." cause that's Dota2.
If supports suck the carry won't farm and they will feed the mid, carry, offlane etc. If the offlane sucks he will feed their carry who will stomp your carry earlier than your carry can stomp him. Dota2 is a game of if's but you try and reduce those as much as possible by doing your bit and playing as well as you can.
But the vast majority either don't give a fuck if you played meepo or earth spirit, they just look at the number and say "wow, this guy is 7k, i must watch his stream". So if that is what it takes then I would say go for it, especially cause all you need in this game is some attention. You might not be better than the average 5.5k but that doesn't matter cause you found a way to seperate yourself from the mass. You just need that one invitation into pro dota and you are set (how many pro players have been forced to leave the scene cos they were playing bad?).
Pick venge, max aura, feed enemy carry = ez +25 (also works as wraith king if they don't have manaburn)
I disagree with your analogy havoc, it's more like only doing curls until you have gigantic biceps, and you're owning all the bicep competitions like arm wrestling and bicep only bodybuilding circuit. Then you get entered into an entire body circuit or have to play tug of war or something and you stink at it.
Cus playing those heroes well still takes some skill and they are still good players. Otherwise everyone who spams a meta hero would just rank up if it were that easy. And a lot of those players are good enough to learn other heroes if they tried.
Whether you disagree with the analogy or not the principle is the same. People with bigger hero pools that perform equally well on more than just the current meta heroes I value far above those who constantly ride the MMR wave of the meta.
To take something from one of my recent games "waiting for the day people learned to play real heroes" and he's right.
The person who said that http://www.dotabuff.com/players/39537293 plays a bunch of mid heroes and performs solidly on them. I prefer someone with 55% winrate on a lot of their top heroes consistently which a lot of games then someone who has 100+ games on troll, jugger, sniper, lina and nothing of worth on anything else.
Maybe people feel differently.
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NO ONE LET ME MID SO I NEED A HERO THAT CAN FARM WITH ANOTHER CARRY IN MY LANE