General Discussionward b**ch

being ward bitch is always legit i do it all the time

There is no such thing as ward bitch, you're just doing your job. I constantly go into games where people overward and will place wards for no reason whatsoever so you have to be careful about not wasting your gold on less than ideal wards.

i just place ward where i want vision lel

i do that with sentry wards and it works

i always buy wards and place in my own jungle so russian fucktards can't jungle

@Havoc Badger
How to know if you "overward"?

When you have vision over a nice patch of land where you notice no enemy heroes ever walk by. That's a sign of overwarding.

^I thought that it is possible to"overward" only with Sentry Wards. Observers too? Not sure how much profit there were, but in my last game I spent about 5k gold on wards, I think. Is it too much?

Yes, you can cleverly ward so that you get the most from your wards instead of just dropping them everywhere, sometimes a gem or dust is better than sentries if you have stunners as even if you drop a sentry that little shit will run, best thing to do is to anticipate them and bait them into getting dusted and killed.

Sentries are damn expensive and 4 sets is the cost of a gem which actually protects you as a support. If an invis see's you have a gem he won't come near you fearing getting caught out and will only take you in a team fight so as long as you give the illusion of team presence or stick with your group then you're good.

Its amazing how scarce an aggressive BH becomes when you have a gem, even if he can kill you he won't as it's a psychological fear that limits him from actually killing you solo, even if he is capable of doing so.

@Havoc Badger
Is what you say 100% true and there are no exceptions? Because I played as a squishy AA vs Clinkz+Lifestealer. I'm not sure that gems or dusts may help in this scenario.

Dude, squishy aa will wreck anyone just fucking make the plays position ward everything and micro snow. No rr
reason to ever die.

That's how I played as Dazzle my last game. I couldn't really get any kills so I decided to just keep warding the entire game and healing my teammates.

@YNIT
In this game you played AA vs Riki. And it looks like Riki had a good game 15/5/5 KDA. Why "wreck anyone" strategy failed?
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/852607259

and i fead least from my team, and when ur entire team dies, u cant say shit can u?

At least you got those Jordans (BoTs)

I did well that game, early to mid was rlly ezy till we had nobody carrying game

End the game with 3k net worth as a 4 core aghs support.

#WARDLIFE

let me ask yo guys this:

If for some reason you were only allowed to pick typical position 5 supports heroes and all late game items were disabled from buying only for you: would you still play dota as much as you do?

ofc. I like winning. hows that different than what I do now?

Milnor, that would be a retarded game, not Dota.

@Milnor
I'm fine wih it, I play any hero as position 5 support anyway.

I'm here to close this thread.

^Hands off my thread!

I ask about serious things here, because I noticed that pro players buy very few sentry wards and no dusts at all.

no i mean only you. everyone else could play whatever

@Milnor
It will be unfair, because there are no "typical" supports. If I want to play support Medusa, nothing can stop me.

support PA can be a thing

^Yes, Wand+Tranquills+Medallion all she needs as a support.

why exactly would you support pa when all she has is a lvl 1 slow

if thats all ur looking for pick veno and u get 50% aoe slow and great push/counterpush and stuff

Cuz pub stompers are greedy, and they can win games without wards as they are best on there server, for others, wards are good. I see this thread not use full, all my threads are good,u drunk buddy

Support shadow fiend comes with a decent nuke set and free medallion.

And awesome reasons to steal all Cs from carry