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General Discussion[Noob Question] Why upgrade to Null Talisman?

[Noob Question] Why upgrade to Null Talisman? in General Discussion
80korvus

    Hi all,

    I've been watching a few games recently, and I noticed that a lot of times, pro players would buy a complete Null Talisman (Total cost: 470 gp, incl 155 gp recipe). My question is, why do people upgrade it in the first place? Why not leave it as a circlet and Mantle. I understand that upgrading it gives you a free slot and +1 o stats, but is it that good a deal vs, say leaving circlet and mantle as is, and getting an extra iron branch or two, or maybe an extra set of tangos for laning, or maybe even leave that 155 gp towards a bottle or boots?

    I've seen this mostly on solo mids (Tinker, Puck etc), and given I usually play supports, I haven't had much practical experience with it myself.

    Thanks for the help!

    Linda | DotaExchange

      Because it is talisman, most of dota 2 pro players are very superstitious, which makes them upgrading to it a MUST if they want to win games.

      Glad i could help.

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      #12

        465 gold, 5 slots = +5 str +5 agility +8 int (3 gg, circlet, mantle)

        470 gold, 1 slot = +3 srt + 3 agility + 6 int +3 damage (null)

        even if you don't care about inventory slots you still get 1 more point of damage from null so its slightly better for last hitting but not much else. practically you might want to buy early boots/bottle/stick and having to finish a wand or null to have inventory room could slow those items down, sure you can sell or send 1 gg back on the courier but then you lost those stats any way.

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        Linda | DotaExchange

          Bump for my awesome replay, come one, no one gives a fuck? :'(

          PROTECTHIMFROMWHATHEWANTS

            better stats , 1 slot , CAN BE UPGRADED TO DAGON <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

            Sup m8

              Sad Linda. But true!

              80korvus

                Thanks, Number 12, Fyyq, that makes sense.

                Flyingpigs

                  gg linda got rejected.

                  Linda | DotaExchange

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                    Mokujin

                      because there is a chance you face Arturka in pubs
                      null talis > artoozy

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                      THICC BABY SHUM

                        cuz it builds into best item in game, DAGON, and second one into vail,

                        VAIL DAGON 5 EZY WINZ

                        Vertoxity

                          Dagon....