General DiscussionCoupe de grace

its prng so maybe it seems more apparent because its evenly distributed

it's just you

check my recent games if u want

I got called cheater recently by some random PA for "not missing enough" without mkb. The funny part, guy was serious and threatened that he will sent a support ticket.

ALOT

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WORD

@xan I see you just typed "ALOT", do you know there is no such a word?

so i've heard

15% means one crit every 6-7 hits. If you hit creeps 3 times without getting a crit, then you get a crit on next 3-4 hits, so your chances are higher.

Read here: http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Pseudo-random_distribution

For example, Slardar's Bash has a 25% probability to Stun the target. On the first attack, however, it will only have an ~8.5% probability to bash; this is its PRD constant C. Each subsequent attack without a bash increases this probability by 8.5%. So on the second attack, the chance is 17%, on the third it is 25.5%, etc. After a bash procs, the probability resets to 8.5% for the next attack. These probabilities average out so that, over a moderate period of time, Bash will proc very nearly 25% of the time.

this is so retarded, so it says 25% but in reality its 8.5 for the first hit which is stupid.

how does the void bash works ? cuz its the only thing that proc with me, everything else never proc ( bear, pa, ogre)

Only SB bash is not PRD I believe.

it is also coup de grace not coupe de grace

im pretty sure you should add the accents if you were trying to be pedantic about the phrase

edit: oh, there's only one accent on it, i stand corrected

i would if i knew how...

for the record, i live in a french-speaking country and wasn't trying to be pedantic but they are two different words!

the literal translations would be

coup de grace = blow of grace
coupe de grace = cutting of grace or cup of grace

anyway, i wasn't trying to be pedantic - i don't think it was a typo.

oh, my bad

if pa has arcana it will trigger more

^ this

If PA is not in your team, it will trigger more.

your luck with heroes is based of how much you spend at the DOTA shop. If you buy a lot of sets than voids bash goes up to 120% which means even when you arent hitting them they get bashed.

Check out this Joke about Randomness

Bob says; he created a PC that tells you the numbers 1-10 at a random rate perfectly.
Andrew says Awsome lets see the results.

PC says : 5, 5, 5, 5, 5.

Bob says; See! perfect!

Andrew says but how do you know its not just saying 5, 5, 5, 5.........

Bob says; There is no way of knowing.

What this Joke tells us is for Dota.

% RANDOM = bad = Endless negative luck. You could actually never bash.

And Pseudo random = Random Without Endless Negative luck. You could actually never stop bashing.

And yes this means you can "save" up your potentinal (Crit/bash) or both.

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seems legit ^

Nice.

Dat virus doh

rlly? is that y all my dota items are gone? vireses do that?

Luck doesn't exist as differently for different people.

By the way, coup de grace in english isn't really blow of grace. It's more like final blow or something like that.

you know how these spambots work?
theres always 1 random idiot who clicks on it
or is it pseudo random?
heueueueue (does not stack with basher)

Seriously?

Is no one going to mention how PRNG works?

I have lost so many games recently with PA... but even I know that you are suppose to prep by attack creeps 3-5 times if possible before you go into a team fight with PA.

You smack a creep 5 times without a crit, and your next strike has a significantly high change to crit. You are then "prepped" for a team fight, and your next attack is somewhere between 30-50% crit chance.

Edit: ok 6 mentioned it.

On top of teaching you people Math heres the french part.

(English) Luck = Chance (in french)

Coup de grâce = blow of mercy (Killing blow ending the suffering of a severely wounded person or animal).

u can animation cancel instead of actually attacking creeps it does the same thing.

Except you might animation cancel a crit.

ya you can get a crit when hitting creeps too i dont get what you are trying to say.
we are talking about crit farming yes?

i once hit 23times with bear without rooting.
that was the last time i played the hero

and btw how does the cancel atack works ?
i mean if you stop ur hit and it was a crit, does it count like it crited ?

Yeah it does and that's why it's not really safe to use animation cancelling method.

:(

with animation cancel, you can increase the probability of a crit at the next fight really fast albeitly unreliably so.

so not really safe but doesn't take 5secs either.

i'm guessing that is the point - correct me if i'm wrong.