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General DiscussionIs Player Rankings broken or what?

Is Player Rankings broken or what? in General Discussion
Sewer Nugget

    What's the deal with Player Rankings lately?
    The Slark players ranking to be more specific: http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/slark/players

    At my 5,910th Slark game I was ranked 9th with a score of 6,245 (one point below 8th place),
    http://s11.postimg.org/oa54l4yxf/10733893_729181737154654_4735276466302876031_o_1.jpg
    then 5 games later (5,915th Slark game) which I have all won (solo queue, ranked) I drop to the 13th place with a score of 6,190...

    You can clearly see that I've won the games on my profile http://www.dotabuff.com/players/53764543
    so what gives?

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    frostychee

      No idea. Would guess:

      1)Your normal and high skill bracket game hurt your ranking, regardless of the win.
      2)You're a dirty slark picker.

      THICC BABY SHUM

        how did u get into normal and high skill? for those 2 games?

        Sewer Nugget

          Oh, fuck.. right, 2 out of 5 games were party games, not solo queues..

          So, if play ranked party with some lower skilled players there's high chances of hurting my score.. didn't know.

          Thanks for the info.

          THICC BABY SHUM

            np, ur score should go back within 2 to 3 games i think.

            Welt aus Eis

              Probably the biggest monohero I've ever seen.

              What's your mmr, btw?

              Luxalpa, Tail of Devastation

                Yes, your party games will screw you up. I myself got +300 points (from Platinum 10 to Diamond 6) by just stopping to play with my friends. Guess I will only use my smurf to play with them.

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                Sewer Nugget

                  Solo MMR is 4.2k, but I've been 5k, dropped to 3.4k, worked my way up to 4.5k again ;D - it's a roller coaster ride.

                  Sewer Nugget

                    Smaug, yeah.. I didn't know of that by now. Goodbye, friendlist :'(

                    Luxalpa, Tail of Devastation

                      @YNIT Dota Exchange
                      It takes more than 2 to 3 games. For me it took around 50 games.

                      Camcorder

                        Sorry that this bit you, and extra sorry that it wasn't clear why! We don't want to discourage people from playing with lower skill friends. It's hard because we can never be 100% certain whether or not you were in a party.

                        We've been researching this and will be making measured improvements step-by-step over the coming weeks that we hope will help address this and many other issues.

                        THICC BABY SHUM

                          50 games wowwow, how many games did you play with low skill friends?

                          Luxalpa, Tail of Devastation

                            Before the rankings I played pretty regularly with them. (that is about 3~8 games per day)

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                            frostychee

                              You could play non slark heroes with your friends. Not a solution to your problem, but it's something.

                              Luxalpa, Tail of Devastation

                                ^ Well, here's the problem though: When I queue with friends then I am supposed to play exceptionally well. Of course I'd love to play heroes that I am not that experienced with, but unfortunately it diminishes our win rates together with our mood :/

                                frostychee

                                  Oh, I see the problem. I was just giving a possible way to play with your friends as well as keep your slark/od performances high. In a perfect world everything would be separated out, but with the already limited data dbuff has access to (this is an assumpsion), you can see why this is very hard.

                                  Also, usually when someone is good enough to get a top 100, they usually can play more than one hero so this wouldn't be that much an issue xd

                                  Sewer Nugget

                                    Takes quite long to get back apparently. In my case I gain 1 point by winning 1 game and I lost 55 just by playing (and winning) 2 ranked party games :DD

                                    Luxalpa, Tail of Devastation

                                      ^ Yes, you just need to get that one level back, it gives you lots of points. Look, I have been on a 7 games loss streak and actually gained almost 40 or so points due to level up from D5 to D6 :) Now I just reached D7, gained another ~20 points

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                                      THICC BABY SHUM

                                        man you musten gotten rlly smart playing so much od, stole so much int.

                                        Unique Technique

                                          6k slark games, I facepalmed when I saw it

                                          Sewer Nugget

                                            Yeah, I feel like I can do anything I want as Slark. Can't really find joy, fun or comfort playing other characters.

                                            Smed

                                              perhaps you should play the 56 other heroes you never played hahahaha

                                              THICC BABY SHUM

                                                LOL

                                                My dawg

                                                  :facepalm:

                                                  THICC BABY SHUM

                                                    how do you post that face?

                                                    Luxalpa, Tail of Devastation

                                                      @frostychee
                                                      I just learned, the skill division actually applies to all heroes, so you can't just play a different hero :/

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                                                      THICC BABY SHUM

                                                        u can play hero that u dont care about, they dont go down if u play different hero

                                                        frostychee

                                                          Oops, my bad! I was making an assumption haha.

                                                          Luxalpa, Tail of Devastation

                                                            @YNIT Dota Exchange

                                                            I was playing OD and suddenly after playing one very low tier game with my friends using Phoenix I jumped a few Divisions up with Phoenix on Diamond 7 which is the same division that I just reached with OD.

                                                            THICC BABY SHUM

                                                              weird, i guess Divisions they do then, i been looking at my Divisions and they seemed to stay still unease i play that hero, will be watching it more often now.

                                                              Luxalpa, Tail of Devastation

                                                                They will update as soon as you play that hero once I think.

                                                                mwsqz

                                                                  what the fuck ? how can u have 6.6 games and worst of all 6kgame with the same hero?

                                                                  Sewer Nugget

                                                                    Pardon you, what's the question again?

                                                                    mwsqz

                                                                      my question is how can a human being live like this ?

                                                                      PROTECTHIMFROMWHATHEWANTS

                                                                        6k slark games:O

                                                                        ok ok im out

                                                                        Sewer Nugget

                                                                          @Chains, it's quite easy: reject any social interaction outside your house and you can achieve the same standards as mine.

                                                                          salt enjoyer

                                                                            ^ aren't you about 4.3K, genuine question not an attempt to insult.

                                                                            #12

                                                                              I don't get it. How can you play so much slark? how can you play so much of any hero with out trying 50 of them even once? Do you just hate playing with out tons of HP regain? there are other heroes that never need to go back to base.

                                                                              pojnt

                                                                                Holy fuckin jesus. I bet you transformed into slark IRL

                                                                                Fpz

                                                                                  you can be 3k player only you have to do is play ~million games on %heroname% if you want to be in top list

                                                                                  Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                                                    It's funny how people are making such a big deal out of pointless rankings. They don't even mean you are the best player on the hero.

                                                                                    Sewer Nugget

                                                                                      @The Number 12, I don't have to try them all, I know what they all do, just don't find them appealing to my play style. Also, I believe Slark is the most horrible to play against because I know exactly what one would be capable of doing :D

                                                                                      Metallicize

                                                                                        i think if u get 6k games on slark, you would die.
                                                                                        just sayin

                                                                                        NextStep ®

                                                                                          How long have you been playing dota 2?
                                                                                          The amount of games you have....

                                                                                          Strongmind

                                                                                            WHy is guy with 4.2k mmr 13 th and me with 4.6k not in top 100 with slark got better kda/ better win rate as well and better mmr?

                                                                                            PINGU NIDEPIGU

                                                                                              You dont have nearly as many games as he does @BogiDoto

                                                                                              Sewer Nugget

                                                                                                @NextStep, my first game was on 21st of December 2012 when my ex-gf introduced me to dota (she was having 1,500 in-game hours at that time :DD), so nearly 2 years. Then she dumped me a few months later because I wasn't giving her the "attention she deserves".