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General DiscussionIs treant the worst initiator so far?

Is treant the worst initiator so far? in General Discussion
Bad Intentions

    I think you really need a complete team that matches his skills? thoughts?

    jo~

      treant phoenix does just fine

      BenaoLifedancer

        treant is ok... just gotta be invis

        Seoulmate

          Force some bkbs from enemy to be used. If they don't you can kill them, if they do you can disengage?

          [Lk].Zano

            His ulti has to be somewhat meh, because of how good Living Armor is. It has a mere 70 secs cd though, so he doesn't have to feel too conservative about it.

            Totentanz to The King: M ...

              It's just outshined by superior spells like Chrono. But still he is fine because he is a support so even if he dies after initiating it's okay anyway.

              Hassan

                It's pretty awful if you compare it to pit of malice but still a pretty good BKB lockdown

                Kryptnyt

                  It's comparable to Ravage and Primal Roar honestly. A 3 second stun at level 6 that hits everything is pretty amazing. It goes through Bkb and repel, but gets purged off by them. It's really good after a good single-target initiation draws and funnels the other enemy heroes in (I.E. Batrider). When picking Treant over these heroes you have to look at his Leech Seed (its a free mek!) and his Living Armor especially.
                  Pairing Treant up with manfighting heroes like Huskar is always a good plan. Lion can be good too, an invisible lion that can cast spells without breaking invis is pretty scary.

                  Totentanz to The King: M ...

                    Only Treant doesn't break invis when casting spells btw.