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      It looks like he played against passive bots, just thinking why are you even in Dota Don John?
      League of Legends needs players like you! even 2k MMR Russians have more game sense than you have.

      DJ

        I'm sure even 2k MMR russians wouldn't play 4000 games and still have a 47% winrate LOLOLOL

        Hearing these low mmr non-ranked players with below 50% winrate talk is music to my ears

        Bunch of failed invoker players hating, this is hilarious....must be frustrating to play 1500 invoker games and still suck

        Keep up with the topic bumping boys

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          @Don John 47% winrate because of the other heroes I suck playing.
          I got 1500 Invoker games but I'm quite sure that I can play way better than the
          trash Orchid build you played for 2700 games.

          Also the skill level of your opponents in most the games are equal to passive bots.

          Your parents should be ashamed because you were born!

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            Never seen Don John use any other spell than Forge Spirits, Coldsnap and Sunstrike.
            Talk more shit please! :) Let me get some popcorn to read the further comments from this 12 year old dickless kid Don John.

            Your steam profile says "They call me the Greatest of All Time" I'm sure nobody ever said that.

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            Grimorum

              @Kappatino Cappucino

              Demonstration Ranked Match: 962752709
              Storm is 5600 MMR

              I killed Storm as Invoker solo around level 5. That was just recently.

              @Don John
              If you are truly 5600 in solo MMR exclusively as Invoker, then I applaud you, but where is the proof?
              How do we separate your team matches from solo?
              How many solo matches have you played?
              How many solo matches do you have as Invoker?

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              saMoves

                Firstly you do realise that only scrubs play on US West right? Secondly, what does 5.6k MMR even mean? Rofl. I don't even care if you rape someone who has 7k MMR in midlane. As far as i can recall, i remember seeing your player perspective once and i can't even imagine how horrible a player you are.

                Broken414

                  Looking at these 12 year old grimorum haters makes me laugh so much that i droped a sunstrike.

                  @Grimorum

                  Just ignore all these haters. They are just jealous of the fact that they cant be as good and famous as you are.

                  @Don John
                  I have a dream that one day you will make scepter for Invoker. Cheers mate

                  saMoves

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMA9j68uPl4 Oh Yes. I do actually remember this video is on youtube. Go figure how bad you are. Before you tell me 'oh i may have improved blah blah black sheep' this was made when you was so 'famed' as the top notched invoker crap.

                    Rofl. I can't even look at how disgustingly BAD you are, a 2k MMR player can last hit better than you. Skip to 24mins, that's pretty much one of the worst death i've ever seen in my entire life ROFL. A skilled player would have combo-ed that and got out safely.

                    Just stop playing invoker dude, you're so bad at it. Disgracing the hero with your shitty skills.

                    Grimorum

                      @Kappatino
                      @24 min, if you can provide an example of how to kill SD and escape at the same time, I would gladly send you $1,000 via Paypal.
                      Otherwise, I will ignore you from here on.

                      I just saw Don John's match: 969784728
                      For a moment, I thought he was good being 5,600 MMR, but.... looks like he is

                      4000 MMR: Orchid and Atos against Lycan and Bristle? Should buy Eul and/or FS. They have BB, lycan, VS, slark, and Sky
                      3000 MMR: Invoker Skill build: 4-4-5, really? I know Icex3 was trolling and used that build once.
                      3000 MMR: Right clicking with QQE while all spells CD...
                      3500 MMR: Positioning. Invoker is not a tank, don't attract attention

                      However,
                      Reflexes did reflect 5,600 MMR
                      Spell choices also did reflect 5,600 MMR

                      This match might be a bad example of his overall play, but it is seriously unbelievable.

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                      Broken414

                        @Kappatina Cappucino
                        That game was featured in Ragin Fury 3 and Ragin Fury 3 was uploaded in August 1 2012 which means that game was 2 years ago. The opponents had Necro,Witch Doctor,Brew,Shadiow Demon,Riki. Pretty much heroes which can counter invoker and have u seen radiants lineup? Even though Grimorum picked 2nd that retard picked pudge knowing that Invoker will go mid? So is that grimorums fault? At that time Meteor dealt half damage because of some bug. Yet Grimorum managed to get 27 killls and 3 deaths where his whole team feed like hell.

                        Seriously dude on what basis are u saying Go figure how bad you are?
                        Please get a life bro. Im sorry about the fact you were born 12 years ago and have played only 34 matches with invoker.
                        The way i see it you need players from Navi or Newbee to support u to win if u play Invoker in PUB.

                        saMoves

                          Lmao. Did i say you have to kill him? Omg. This is why you're such a bad player. Trading one carry just to get the kill of a support is beyond me ROFL. Yeah. Pretty much sums up how bad you are. Case closed.

                          Rofl. Who's this normal bracket autist? Yeah, i play WAY less games on invoker than grim but i'm probably 100 times better than him ROFL. Facts are facts. Go to hell.

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                            @Grimorum

                            Like Suspended said this Don John makes Orchid and Atos no matter what heroes the opponents take.

                            Grimorum

                              @Kappatino
                              So I play greedy sometimes. Who doesn't?

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                              saMoves

                                Greedy? LOL you don't call that greedy. Please, that's called 'stupidity' or tunneled vision. No decent player would be 'greedy' for that kill.

                                Grimorum

                                  @Cook[ing]
                                  Was Don John trolling, or does he go 4-4-5 skill build all the time?

                                  Broken414

                                    @Grimorum

                                    Forget that Kapptino guy. There is no point in argueing with kids man. Just look at his steam profile he has 3 friends on steam? No wonder nobody wants to be friends with that guy.
                                    And as far as that game is concerned dont give a crap about it. that game is long gone and there is no need to bring up stuffs from that when you had only 5000 invoker games. :)

                                    Broken414

                                      @Grimorum

                                      I added Don John once after hearing about his shit invoker. I posed as a fanboy just so i could spected 5-10 of his games. That guy literally wins because of the team. in 2-3 games his allies owned Top/Bot lane and because of that the opponents actually abandoned the game. I mean seriously who does that on a 5k MMR game? Its more like a Low Prioty game.

                                      saMoves

                                        Lmao. Typical normal bracket autist that have no clue what does a 'smurf' means. Why don't you improve before talking to me?

                                        Oh. One game of 5000 invoker games? 'Check out Grimorum, the star of Invoker's Raging Fury, as he plays his best game with Invoker despite the disadvantage of then bugged Meteor damage:' Hmm. Sure.

                                        If you can play 5000 invoker games and be that bad, i don't know anymore.

                                        Broken414

                                          @Kappatino

                                          I would sure love to see your 35th Invoker game. why dont you take your time and show us you latest Invoker gameplay?
                                          I understand you played lots of games with invoker (34) and have really high tech knowledge on that hero but seriously who the hells brings up stuffs from 2 years ago? I know who, Women. Please stop embarassing you self son or should i say child?

                                          Broken414

                                            @Kappatino

                                            Oh so this is your Smurf account. Why dont u do us alll a favour. Why dont u show the whole world you real dotabuff id? Dont worry i wont judge a mere 2k MMR player with that 40% winrate.

                                            saMoves

                                              Lmao. Here's some tips, if you can even survive offlane while playing invoker and still have an impact on the game at 5k MMR in SEA then you shall talk to me. I don't even consider QW invoker in 6.82c to be a premier pubstomp hero in offlane, yet I can still pull it off, can you?

                                              Go ahead and watch my games? Lmao, what an autist. I bet after watching you'll be like 'oh QW invoker 3 spell crap'.

                                              Nah, the plain facts that he still thinks that dive was 'greedy' after 2 years say alot about 'improving'? :)

                                              Then again, if you are 2k MMR i don't think i wanna speak to you, you are a waste of my time between my 'speech' with grim

                                              krame420
                                                1heroman

                                                  ^Don't open [Virus]

                                                  krame420

                                                    are u autistic

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                                                      @Kappatino Cappucino

                                                      I think nobody here gives a rats ass about your "Speech"
                                                      Even Grimorum isnt replying to this thread.
                                                      I suggest u play more invoker games and talk to us about Invoker.

                                                      saMoves

                                                        Nah, more like nobody here gives a shit about you or grim. Is it that hard to tell that you are the minority here? Rofl. Low mmr thrashbag.

                                                        Broken414

                                                          So what are you actually trying to prove here? You play better than Grimorum?

                                                          saMoves

                                                            I don't know if it's obvious but of course? ROFL. Not gonna waste my time replying to you anymore, you are so bad at dota. If you think you/grim can beat me, i'd welcome you to scrim me anytime.

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                                                              Rofl another Don John fanboy who builds Orchid every game keep this post up please!

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                                                                I was just spectating Don John a while ago. The enemy Juggernaut had a Manta Style. This guy didn't even check his Inventory! goes ahead Orchids him and dies ROFL! RIP 5k MMR!

                                                                Simply a 3k skill level player.

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                                                                  idk bro but yo grill is cute

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                                                                  DJ

                                                                    Hey Grim, got to say this is quite amusing to see your low winrate and mmr fanboys jump out.

                                                                    Nice try at discrediting me, if you really wanted proof all you had to do was spend 30 seconds and search up my name on the American Leaderboard (KG.Don John) that's all the proof you need, it says 5594 is my MMR now, but I've raised it to 5700 tonight and that new number will be updated after tomorrow.

                                                                    http://www.dota2.com/leaderboards/#americas

                                                                    I guess you don't check leaderboard often enough since you never even reached it before, gotta say man that's pretty bad considering you played 6000 invoker games and you can't even crack top 200? HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?

                                                                    Not sure why you want to choose that game specifically to critique, quite honestly I've seen a game or two of you before and your game sense was just absolute garbage (3-4k level), it is hilarious to see your profile show 5 ranked games with a 40% winrate, every high mmr player that I knew had said you are a joke when we saw your games, you need a REALITY CHECK, your invoker is garbage and you play against garbage players on a regular basis.

                                                                    Have you played against Dendi before?

                                                                    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/766179134

                                                                    Also yes I was 6080 mmr once, I've got a screenshot (I took it when I was 6018) and legit players can vouch for me (not your typical low mmr non ranked players)

                                                                    http://imgur.com/KA9nA4m

                                                                    ^Here's a screenshot of when I was 6018 MMR, inb4 you say it's photoshopped, I'll just laugh at how pathetic you are.

                                                                    So I have way higher solo MMR than you, ranked way higher than you on Dotabuff, play against way more legit players, what's your next argument? Are you going to find another bad game from me and force feed that I'm 3k? HAHAHAHA what a joke

                                                                    Though I did perform subpar in that 4-8-17 game, you do realize two of their players on the other team was 6300 mmr and 6200 mmr each? If you want I'll gladly arrange their stack to play against you

                                                                    Also please don't applaud me, it means nothing to me coming from you =)

                                                                    Now go find another bad replay and criticize me while I climb back to 6000 mmr.

                                                                    REKT.

                                                                    -Don John

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                                                                    Dev

                                                                      Seems like both Don John and Grimorum spam invoker and one has 600 MMR more than the other. One person's team wins way more than the other's. Whats more to be argued about lol?

                                                                      MadBeast

                                                                        Grimorum has best highlight period. Who give a fuck of your 3k games with invoker, how can you even spam the same hero for 3k games ? Are you several on your account ?

                                                                        A mod should close this thread no one care about this.

                                                                        jo~

                                                                          thread wasnt about best highlight o.O

                                                                          MadBeast

                                                                            This thread is 1 year old and you have Don John talking to Grim, except that grim isn't posting on this thread, come on this isn't a blog.

                                                                            DJ

                                                                              ^Actually Grim responded yesterday

                                                                              saMoves

                                                                                Lmao. All these low mmr f@ggits actually supports each other like some nerds HAHAHA. They actually believe playing against nerdy opponents and thrashing them is cool.

                                                                                I. I just can't handle it xD Low IQ shitheads.

                                                                                Well, i'm just gonna end this here, to those who think grim's invoker is good or some shit, come and scrim me and we'll see? :) Maybe you're 3k MMR and too shitty to even last 5 mins.

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                                                                                Midi Prill

                                                                                  Kapparino give it a rest kid, you come off like a sad case

                                                                                  saMoves

                                                                                    Lmao. What's up with all these low mmr nerds. Do you guys only excel at typing garbage? I think so. :DDD

                                                                                    I mean, that's the only thing you can do right?

                                                                                    Life checklist for you:

                                                                                    Good at dota? NOPE
                                                                                    Good in social life? NOPE
                                                                                    Good in studies? NOPE

                                                                                    I mean like really... people like you are so sad.

                                                                                    Aerium

                                                                                      im 2.6K mmr and proud. deal with it.

                                                                                      "sticks and stones may break my bones, but DONT YOU FUCK WITH ME MR.SMURF"

                                                                                      Aerium

                                                                                        and whats with the dick swinging going on these days
                                                                                        "i got 5K mmr scrub"
                                                                                        "what? i'm 5.5K myself"
                                                                                        "aww piss of you 2K scrub"
                                                                                        yada yada.

                                                                                        just zip it up man, this ain't a flamerino site. discuss dota not dicks

                                                                                        Grimorum

                                                                                          Don John, I really used to think you were good being at 5600 MMR. However, your MMR is hugely inflated by your 5 man stack team.
                                                                                          Your Solo rank means nothing if you were 5 man stacking to 6000 hidden MMR. Then if you played solo and lost 8 games, you would still have 5850 solo MMR.

                                                                                          You construct basely arguments with no evidence whatsoever. Me and a few others have pointed out your huge mistakes reflecting those of 3000 MMR and you have absolutely no explanation. How do you justify using the same item build for all your games?

                                                                                          Orchid and Dagger are not core items for invoker, they are situational: http://www.dotabuff.com/players/86929270/matches
                                                                                          Your skill build is horrendous too, yet you provide no explanation. It wasn't just that one game, I randomly looked at another match, and you did it again: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/907827841/builds
                                                                                          What is this? Why do you build 4 quas 4 wex, 5 exort like a 3000 MMR noob?

                                                                                          If you proposed your item build and skill build to Ferrari, he might just die from laughter.
                                                                                          Your item build and skill build is a disgrace to all invoker players. I pray nobody tries to follow your path.
                                                                                          You regularly talk shit to me because you are jealous and you provide nothing for the community.
                                                                                          I just really don't want new players to follow your noob skill build and item build.

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                                                                                          Welt aus Eis

                                                                                            He's been consistently on the leaderboards for a long time now, I always check the names on the leaderboard out of curiosity and he's always there. I've seen him too with 6k.
                                                                                            This fight is completely stupid, first of all everybody knows that Grim is a very good Invoker player but is totally overrated by the community because of the flashy plays shown at Raging Fury (which anyone can make after 3k games, especially in unranked matches)
                                                                                            Second, Don John seems a really good player and it's impressive to get 6k with only Invoker, but please stop acting so arrogantly, you're not a Dota god, being 5.5k nowadays means pretty much nothing, I'm a mediocre player and I'm 5k. I have hit 5100 not so long ago, if I keep playing more and more ranked games I'll reach 5.5k because you just need to maintain a positive winrate to do so.

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                                                                                              I did mention that Don John's reflexes and spell choices reflect 5600. The only thing that is completely outrageous is his item build and skill build. Truthfully, if he changes it, he can be 6000 again. I have made constructive criticism on his gaming that could be of good use for the community. Honestly, he probably deserves his MMR since you said he is there regularly. I can't reach that MMR anymore. I'm old, slow, and stiff from 20 years of gaming. The only thing I have left is knowledge and muscle memory.

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                                                                                              DJ

                                                                                                Hey Grim, your post is hilarious....do you even know how MMR works? I calibrated at 5300 MMR and won my way to 6000 MMR anyone who rank solo queue often knows that you go through fluctuations of 200-300 on a regular basis, that's why you see guys that are 6200 fall to 5900 and go back up again

                                                                                                who actually calibrates at 6000 mmr lolol??? Even I remember Dragonfist saying he calibrated at 5500....so what's your next pathetic excuse? Are you going to ask me to provide you proof again after me practically debunking everything you said.

                                                                                                I have better solo MMR than you, I have higher team MMR than you, I rank much higher than you on dotabuff (highest diamond 10 invoker player), I was top 30 America at one point

                                                                                                You?

                                                                                                You have 5 ranked matches on your profile with a 40% winrate for Christ sake lol!!

                                                                                                If my invoker is truly 3k you wouldn't have went 0-12 against me with your huskar lol!!!

                                                                                                Please respond again, you are running out of rebuttals

                                                                                                How can you criticize my item and skill build when it has gotten me to 6000 MMR before and top 30 America? Also why would I waste time explaining the rationale of my item and skill buils to someone who is clearly so bad at this game that he plays the same hero for 6000 games but can't even crack top 200?

                                                                                                Would you even be able to comprehend what makes me a much better player than you are when you never played at a high level before?

                                                                                                If your invoker is better why can't you prove it by getting 5700-6000 MMR?

                                                                                                Also I'm sure Ferrari would've died in laughter at someone who played 6000 invoker games but can't crack top 200 and is trying to criticize another player who plays the same hero but was 6000 MMR and top 30....your argument is soooo weak and cringe worthy

                                                                                                Not sure if my Invoker is such a disgrace if what I did got me 6080 MMR....which is a whopping 1000 MMR higher than yours...clearly what I'm doing works and you don't understand why it does.

                                                                                                REKT.

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                                                                                                THICC BABY SHUM

                                                                                                  Don John, anybody can be top invoker from 2900 matches. lolz

                                                                                                  THICC BABY SHUM

                                                                                                    husk vs invoker rlly fair also not to mention howmany ganks you asked for to kill him.