Go to this link for all your Grimorum needs!!! All 1200 games with 52% winrate goodness!
For some reason he changed his name to "play for fun only" after his real account was exposed, Grimorum sounds perfectly fine why did you change it a month ago =(
I am genuinely curious Grim, do your guides work against legit competition on a consistent basis?
In the current account you play in, 80% of the invoker games displayed don't even qualify for the "very high" skill bracket and everyone has 50% or below winrate.
Also how many smurf accounts do you use before you settle for a main account and turn match sharing off?
Is this one a "play for fun" account or is it a "play while I'm taking a dump" account? (You advertised this in your YouTube Channel)
http://dotabuff.com/players/120873492
Thanks! (your #1 fan)
p.s: My cousin who is new to the game says he is looking for a partner to wreak havok on low mmr players for his next raging orgy video, can you please add him? Much appreciated!
53% win rate happened because I ignored team composition and lane matchup in a solo queue. I instantly picked Invoker back then and it gives the other team an advantage to counterpick. If you played one hero 99.9% of the time in solo queue, you would be near 53% too. Furthermore, winning was not my priority back then.
Btw, quit harassing, cussing, and disrespecting dota community members. If dota was real life, I would have filed a restraining order on you:
Why do you even answer this kind of post, Grimorum
Looks like the guy can't stand the fact that you're famous and he isn't. Poor guy.
You may even be a better Invoker than Grim, I don't give a fuck and nobody gives a fuck, you're just whining around on Dota forums, find something more useful to do. Make some dota movies and maybe you'll get famous as well.
What happened to your TestingRum comment? Did you forget to sign out of your 60th smurf account?
I almost choked to death drinking my cup of water when the original link showed the Lina on the other team having 4 branches and 1 boots of travel in his inventory, is this some sort of new meta?
I am also quite curious why you want to copy and paste the same thing everywhere (reddit, playdota etc) when it doesn't prove anything. You do realize one of the links wasn't in the "very high" bracket and the other one had 4 players who were 50% on the other team.
If I remember correctly chinkyminks was also one of your friends (so much for solo queue whoop dee doo).
If you were so adamant about keeping your MMR a secret why did you bother telling us your Dotabuff Rating when most of your games on your original account aren't even in "solo matchmaking"....isn't that lying? I thought you were only interested in a solo queue vs other solo queue mmr ! Btw, minor detail but you are near 52% not 53% lol
Oh by the way, don't switch the subject. The majority of the people on my MMR topic were very supportive and thought it was one of the few legit suggestions when it comes to MMR, including the mod there. You on the other hand received a lot of flak on the other topic though =(
I'm sorry but it is hilarious if you are implying that you now care much more about people counter picking as you have invoker as your damn display picture, besides I don't think anyone cares enough to counter pick or knows what counter picking is in your games.
Try again though ok?
p.s: Is it true that you created multiple accounts to praise yourself on the DotaCash Forum back in the day and got busted after mods IP checked you?
Someone wrote this about you on reddit:
"This guy used to make fake accounts in the DotaCash forum and praise himself for being the best invoker he'd ever seen. He'd post highlight videos of himself from these fake accounts and just brag on himself. The mods called him out because the accounts (there were multiple, like 3-5) praising grimorum had the same IP address as grimorum. He then tried to claim it wasn't him and it was his little brother.
The guy is a good invoker but he has some serious issues as far as insecurity goes."
Seems to me like a lot of angry boys that couldn't get featured anywhere and are unheard of despite having so many games played.
Mid players are all egotistical this is fact...so to hurt you all a little more I think this guy is not just one of the best invokers but one of the best mid players I have ever seen.
@Havoc, I have no problem admitting that guy is probably one of the best mid players, and I certainly think guys like Cook and Gideon are great invoker players in their own right.
@Grimorum
No one gives a rats ass about low level mmr games. It's easy as fk to play in the "very high" bracket (not to mention those are lower tier games in that specific bracket).
We want to see an account that performs well over a long consistent period of time against high level players, not a new 100 game account that has match sharing turned off after the creation of 5 other smurf accounts.
The fact of the matter is, the only account that demonstrates your consistency is your 1200 game 52% winrate one.
I think Grimorum deserves more credit than many here are giving him. imo he influenced a lot of how Invoker players view/use the hero today and has probably been playing him longer than most pros today (even back in dota 1). He's a skill build/item build innovator. Check out his guide on dotafire.com; it's fantastic and comprehensive: http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/guide/grimorums-guide-for-invoker-5924
the only skill in Invoker's Raging Fury vidoes is editing skill, sorry, but even the worst invokers have moments such as in those videos, theres a difference if you can collect material for 1 video like that from 100 invoker games of yours or 10 .. and honestly when someone says that Grim is best invoker ever i want to kill myself with a spoon
lol
fighting over who iz the best invoker player in doto2 video game?
of course. your boss at your work will bend and bow at your knee for having 6000mmr and people will praise you for such grand achievement.
I will proudly tell grandchildren how godlike their invocations were when I was young, how they created and threw tornado and meteor out of thin air.
And the names of those great invokers shall be pass down to our descendant as the role model.
IT IS WRITTEN. THE NAME OF THE MOST GREATEST INVOKER:
GRICOOKMORRARICERUM A.K.A THE ONE MAN ARMY
His image I saw was like a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority.
Why would you bump this thread, also there are literally hundreds of very good invoker players but among the most notable are probably the raging fury guy "grimorum" and http://dotabuff.com/players/86929270
^Don John 8 meses atrás
One of the worst Invoker I've ever seen. His team win matches, not he does. So yea, I've watched a few of his games and his dotabuff records, so what I got? Well:
-Always play with a team stack.
-Always useless piece of shit, that always uses the one item+skill build (Eul, Orchid, Blink.) He doesn't try aghanim, he doesn't use something besides forge spirits, cold snap and ice wall.
-He has 2600 invoker games and the highest count of kills with invoker - 27 and it was a year ago.
Guess he doesn't even have solo mmr, because he doesn't play without faggots that could win his game.
And Grimorum that's playing alone and rely only on himself, that's using any builds and metas, that knows everything of invoker.
It's obv, he's one of the best and Don John is just a jealous faggot, that can't deal with invoker spells after 2600 games.
re: the guy asking if its true grim made fake accounts to praise himself - i don't remember that, but as someone who was active on those forums for 3 years and i can tell you i 100% will never forget when he got caught starting a thread JUST LIKE THIS ONE
asking "who are the good invoker players / who should i learn from?" under a fake account. he already had 1 or 2 of his terrible videos out then - the first couple didnt even have the editing skills lul. the results were similar to this thread, people who actually follow dota pointed at pro invoker players, and random pubs called out GRIMORUM. then the admins noticed that it was grimorums IP attached to the account that started the thread and he tried to say it was his little brother
Ferrari iceiceice ddz. Top 3 invoker players in the world.
Cook and grim invoker are shit, dont even bother learning from them. Lmao, i bet 99% of those videos are his normal matchmaking games, his opponents looks like some 3k MMR tier thrash.
^Dude right click invoker players are all shit. Whats the point of having 10 spells if u are just gonna right. You should play heroes like sniper or drow if casting spells are to hard for u.
Hi. Even though I'm not a top ranked invoker player by the numbers (currently 688th), I feel I could be considered a top invoker player. Have been successful with him above 5.5k mmr. Haven't really read the thread, but if you want to add me on steam and ask me stuff feel free.
You do realize my solo mmr was at 6080 at its peak right on the American leaderboard and was using aghanims invoker in my earlier DOTA 2 days and even in Dota 1?
Since you started this, has Grim ever hit 6k solo mmr? Actually was he ever on the leaderboard once?
No, I never hit the leaderboard.
Solo 5200 MMR at the moment. My other heroes suck. Has anyone gotten 5500 by using only Invoker (SOLO)
I am #44 on the top 100 Invokers
Grim, i havent seen you performing ONCE against decent opponents, care to explain that? :) Heck. I probably even think my offlane invoker outclasses you anyday rofl.
May I correct you? Dota isn't about memorising keystrokes, you are only good at memorising keystrokes and spamming it when the situation suits a 5 man cluster of shit. Your game sense on the other hand is so bad that i can't even :DDD
From what I have heard from most of Don John fanboys is that Don John is just a 12 year old dickless kid who build Orchid every fucking game even against 5 rightclickers. This guy has purchased a 6k MMR account and dropped it by 5k.
He doesn't even play like a 5k. Don John please! we need you @ 4k, maybe 3k would be perfect for a mentally challenged player like you! :)
@Don John
you so bad just wat suspended animation said .... even my grandma plays better invoker than you
@Kappatino
Only 34 games? :( and you think you can beat a person who play over 7k games with only invoker:? do you even common sense
@Niño rata ruso
So true man.... Don John -Always play with a team stack.
-Always useless piece of ***, that always uses the one item+skill build (Eul, Orchid, Blink.) He doesn't try aghanim, he doesn't use something besides forge spirits, cold snap and ice wall.
-he doesn't play without **** that win his game
And Grimorum that's playing alone and rely only on himself, that's using any builds and metas, that knows everything of invoker.
It's obv, he's one of the best and Don John is just a jealous guy, that can't deal with invoker spells after 2600 games.
Just watched his last game, it was total domination and his invoker sucks anyway
He didn't use meteor nor tornado, only sunstrike, icewall(shitty tbh), blast, forges and alacrity. He could easily lose with such gameplay, but his team win, as usual for him. He's gonna lose in every game, but team brings him from shit. That's it. I'd report such fgt just because I respect the hero.
autistic grim is mad
Go to this link for all your Grimorum needs!!! All 1200 games with 52% winrate goodness!
For some reason he changed his name to "play for fun only" after his real account was exposed, Grimorum sounds perfectly fine why did you change it a month ago =(
Grim's real profile:
http://dotabuff.com/players/97262499
I am genuinely curious Grim, do your guides work against legit competition on a consistent basis?
In the current account you play in, 80% of the invoker games displayed don't even qualify for the "very high" skill bracket and everyone has 50% or below winrate.
Also how many smurf accounts do you use before you settle for a main account and turn match sharing off?
Is this one a "play for fun" account or is it a "play while I'm taking a dump" account? (You advertised this in your YouTube Channel)
http://dotabuff.com/players/120873492
Thanks! (your #1 fan)
p.s: My cousin who is new to the game says he is looking for a partner to wreak havok on low mmr players for his next raging orgy video, can you please add him? Much appreciated!
@Don John
Invoker's Raging fury 6
http://dotabuff.com/matches/276024710
http://dotabuff.com/matches/274853710
http://dotabuff.com/matches/268010601
http://dotabuff.com/matches/267703073
http://dotabuff.com/matches/258351802
http://dotabuff.com/matches/225094771
http://dotabuff.com/matches/206087875
Invoker's Raging Fury 5:
46409699, 43996191, 44383634, 47833518, 48181547, 56245360, 48647414
WoDota Top Ten Vol 5
17986335
DotaCinema Hall of Fame Episode 50
32480171
53% win rate happened because I ignored team composition and lane matchup in a solo queue. I instantly picked Invoker back then and it gives the other team an advantage to counterpick. If you played one hero 99.9% of the time in solo queue, you would be near 53% too. Furthermore, winning was not my priority back then.
Btw, quit harassing, cussing, and disrespecting dota community members. If dota was real life, I would have filed a restraining order on you:
iinvoke: "LOL you're a fking moron!"
http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1392278&page=3
iinvoke: "Like are you serious? You can't be this dumb right?"
http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1398180&page=2
iinvoke: "Let me give you a response to your stupid questions and dumb suggestions... "
http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1398180&page=4
iinvoke: "Don't be a dumbass, I have no patience for idiots."
http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1398180&page=4
Why do you even answer this kind of post, Grimorum
Looks like the guy can't stand the fact that you're famous and he isn't. Poor guy.
You may even be a better Invoker than Grim, I don't give a fuck and nobody gives a fuck, you're just whining around on Dota forums, find something more useful to do. Make some dota movies and maybe you'll get famous as well.
Dear Grimorum,
What happened to your TestingRum comment? Did you forget to sign out of your 60th smurf account?
I almost choked to death drinking my cup of water when the original link showed the Lina on the other team having 4 branches and 1 boots of travel in his inventory, is this some sort of new meta?
I am also quite curious why you want to copy and paste the same thing everywhere (reddit, playdota etc) when it doesn't prove anything. You do realize one of the links wasn't in the "very high" bracket and the other one had 4 players who were 50% on the other team.
If I remember correctly chinkyminks was also one of your friends (so much for solo queue whoop dee doo).
If you were so adamant about keeping your MMR a secret why did you bother telling us your Dotabuff Rating when most of your games on your original account aren't even in "solo matchmaking"....isn't that lying? I thought you were only interested in a solo queue vs other solo queue mmr ! Btw, minor detail but you are near 52% not 53% lol
Oh by the way, don't switch the subject. The majority of the people on my MMR topic were very supportive and thought it was one of the few legit suggestions when it comes to MMR, including the mod there. You on the other hand received a lot of flak on the other topic though =(
I'm sorry but it is hilarious if you are implying that you now care much more about people counter picking as you have invoker as your damn display picture, besides I don't think anyone cares enough to counter pick or knows what counter picking is in your games.
Try again though ok?
p.s: Is it true that you created multiple accounts to praise yourself on the DotaCash Forum back in the day and got busted after mods IP checked you?
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1obxxa/comprehensive_invoker_guide_by_grimorum_after/
Someone wrote this about you on reddit:
"This guy used to make fake accounts in the DotaCash forum and praise himself for being the best invoker he'd ever seen. He'd post highlight videos of himself from these fake accounts and just brag on himself. The mods called him out because the accounts (there were multiple, like 3-5) praising grimorum had the same IP address as grimorum. He then tried to claim it wasn't him and it was his little brother.
The guy is a good invoker but he has some serious issues as far as insecurity goes."
Seems to me like a lot of angry boys that couldn't get featured anywhere and are unheard of despite having so many games played.
Mid players are all egotistical this is fact...so to hurt you all a little more I think this guy is not just one of the best invokers but one of the best mid players I have ever seen.
http://dotabuff.com/players/61061435
Chains? This guy is legendary. Best Tinker in the world. I wonder what's his MMR.
@Havoc, I have no problem admitting that guy is probably one of the best mid players, and I certainly think guys like Cook and Gideon are great invoker players in their own right.
@Grimorum
No one gives a rats ass about low level mmr games. It's easy as fk to play in the "very high" bracket (not to mention those are lower tier games in that specific bracket).
We want to see an account that performs well over a long consistent period of time against high level players, not a new 100 game account that has match sharing turned off after the creation of 5 other smurf accounts.
The fact of the matter is, the only account that demonstrates your consistency is your 1200 game 52% winrate one.
http://dotabuff.com/players/97262499
TBH I thought it was pretty messed up for you to create fake accounts and boast about yourself on Dotacash forums back in the day lol.
hey grim is dis ur new acc? http://dotabuff.com/players/151577978
someone has been posting gameplays on youtube, including cook's games. his acc. http://www.youtube.com/channel/UConGlyTE-KbjIgYG_5TFUOg
i need ur answer grim
is dis ur new acc grim? http://dotabuff.com/players/151577978
cuz theres dis person uploading *urs* and cook's invoker games. his utube acc-- http://www.youtube.com/channel/UConGlyTE-KbjIgYG_5TFUOg
i need ur answer grim :)
Yes that is his account.
I think Grimorum deserves more credit than many here are giving him. imo he influenced a lot of how Invoker players view/use the hero today and has probably been playing him longer than most pros today (even back in dota 1). He's a skill build/item build innovator. Check out his guide on dotafire.com; it's fantastic and comprehensive: http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/guide/grimorums-guide-for-invoker-5924
cooks best invoker player
the only skill in Invoker's Raging Fury vidoes is editing skill, sorry, but even the worst invokers have moments such as in those videos, theres a difference if you can collect material for 1 video like that from 100 invoker games of yours or 10 .. and honestly when someone says that Grim is best invoker ever i want to kill myself with a spoon
^ mad bro.
I won a game against Cook (never heard of him before this thread lol) and I'm proud of myself now lol.
http://dotabuff.com/players/75036276/matches
lol
fighting over who iz the best invoker player in doto2 video game?
of course. your boss at your work will bend and bow at your knee for having 6000mmr and people will praise you for such grand achievement.
I will proudly tell grandchildren how godlike their invocations were when I was young, how they created and threw tornado and meteor out of thin air.
And the names of those great invokers shall be pass down to our descendant as the role model.
IT IS WRITTEN. THE NAME OF THE MOST GREATEST INVOKER:
GRICOOKMORRARICERUM A.K.A THE ONE MAN ARMY
His image I saw was like a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority.
http://dotabuff.com/players/77581590 check him out
Why would you bump this thread, also there are literally hundreds of very good invoker players but among the most notable are probably the raging fury guy "grimorum" and http://dotabuff.com/players/86929270
my irl friend says he's among the best
http://dotabuff.com/players/80896092
:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
and Grimorum never replied to this post again....
@mrgurimo
U the best invoker in the world grimm
NONO)
^Don John 8 meses atrás
One of the worst Invoker I've ever seen. His team win matches, not he does. So yea, I've watched a few of his games and his dotabuff records, so what I got? Well:
-Always play with a team stack.
-Always useless piece of shit, that always uses the one item+skill build (Eul, Orchid, Blink.) He doesn't try aghanim, he doesn't use something besides forge spirits, cold snap and ice wall.
-He has 2600 invoker games and the highest count of kills with invoker - 27 and it was a year ago.
Guess he doesn't even have solo mmr, because he doesn't play without faggots that could win his game.
And Grimorum that's playing alone and rely only on himself, that's using any builds and metas, that knows everything of invoker.
It's obv, he's one of the best and Don John is just a jealous faggot, that can't deal with invoker spells after 2600 games.
why does this stupid thread keep coming back
no idea thought it was long since dead :)
bump this fred guise
re: the guy asking if its true grim made fake accounts to praise himself - i don't remember that, but as someone who was active on those forums for 3 years and i can tell you i 100% will never forget when he got caught starting a thread JUST LIKE THIS ONE
asking "who are the good invoker players / who should i learn from?" under a fake account. he already had 1 or 2 of his terrible videos out then - the first couple didnt even have the editing skills lul. the results were similar to this thread, people who actually follow dota pointed at pro invoker players, and random pubs called out GRIMORUM. then the admins noticed that it was grimorums IP attached to the account that started the thread and he tried to say it was his little brother
shit was too funny
Ferrari iceiceice ddz. Top 3 invoker players in the world.
Cook and grim invoker are shit, dont even bother learning from them. Lmao, i bet 99% of those videos are his normal matchmaking games, his opponents looks like some 3k MMR tier thrash.
I am DPS right clickers invoker I've been playing 6 years games of Invoker, Recently played last game. example; http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/942893414
^Dude right click invoker players are all shit. Whats the point of having 10 spells if u are just gonna right. You should play heroes like sniper or drow if casting spells are to hard for u.
And in my opinion.
Best Invoker Players in Pro Dota Scene
1)Ferrarri_430
2)Iceiceice
3)Dendi
Best Invoker Players Only. (Not Pro Scene nor other heroes)
1)Cook
2)Vurtne
3)Grimorum.
Hi. Even though I'm not a top ranked invoker player by the numbers (currently 688th), I feel I could be considered a top invoker player. Have been successful with him above 5.5k mmr. Haven't really read the thread, but if you want to add me on steam and ask me stuff feel free.
@Wolfysaur
You do realize my solo mmr was at 6080 at its peak right on the American leaderboard and was using aghanims invoker in my earlier DOTA 2 days and even in Dota 1?
Since you started this, has Grim ever hit 6k solo mmr? Actually was he ever on the leaderboard once?
This thread keeps coming back, and back, and back. Will it ever die?
http://i.gyazo.com/c08bd4fb1c0c316d6f322f827101718a.png
No, I never hit the leaderboard.
Solo 5200 MMR at the moment. My other heroes suck. Has anyone gotten 5500 by using only Invoker (SOLO)
I am #44 on the top 100 Invokers
you'r always play unRanked, so where did you got 5100 mmr?
Grim, i havent seen you performing ONCE against decent opponents, care to explain that? :) Heck. I probably even think my offlane invoker outclasses you anyday rofl.
May I correct you? Dota isn't about memorising keystrokes, you are only good at memorising keystrokes and spamming it when the situation suits a 5 man cluster of shit. Your game sense on the other hand is so bad that i can't even :DDD
@Grim
To answer your question.
I am at 5500+ SOLO mmr right now playing exclusively invoker (American Leaderboard), and at my peak I hit 6080.
I'm also ranked 19 on Top 100 Invoker
Just throwing it out there since you asked, this is more directed to your shit talking fanboys rather than you though
(rolls my eyes)
-Don John
Don John is arguably the worst Invoker you can ever find!
I would say Grimorum, Cook, Vurtne, Gideon and Excali the best Invoker players.
@Don John MY DOG PLAYS BETTER INVOKER THAN YOU!
From what I have heard from most of Don John fanboys is that Don John is just a 12 year old dickless kid who build Orchid every fucking game even against 5 rightclickers. This guy has purchased a 6k MMR account and dropped it by 5k.
He doesn't even play like a 5k. Don John please! we need you @ 4k, maybe 3k would be perfect for a mentally challenged player like you! :)
@Don John
you so bad just wat suspended animation said .... even my grandma plays better invoker than you
@Kappatino
Only 34 games? :( and you think you can beat a person who play over 7k games with only invoker:? do you even common sense
@Niño rata ruso
So true man.... Don John -Always play with a team stack.
-Always useless piece of ***, that always uses the one item+skill build (Eul, Orchid, Blink.) He doesn't try aghanim, he doesn't use something besides forge spirits, cold snap and ice wall.
-he doesn't play without **** that win his game
And Grimorum that's playing alone and rely only on himself, that's using any builds and metas, that knows everything of invoker.
It's obv, he's one of the best and Don John is just a jealous guy, that can't deal with invoker spells after 2600 games.
@Suspended Animation
Total Chutiya Don John
Don John just mad becuase he is bad!
Just watched his last game, it was total domination and his invoker sucks anyway
He didn't use meteor nor tornado, only sunstrike, icewall(shitty tbh), blast, forges and alacrity. He could easily lose with such gameplay, but his team win, as usual for him. He's gonna lose in every game, but team brings him from shit. That's it. I'd report such fgt just because I respect the hero.
haahha 4-8 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO